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Old 03-23-2013, 01:54 PM   #601
 
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Haha, yeah. . . ideas are always good, I love the input! But. . . Pictus and Discus are DEFINITELY out, lol.

I HAVE shut down tanks, I'm actually down to two right now (not counting QT tanks). Becoming in the 55g and my daughter's little 5g Betta tank. When summer comes, I'll be bringing the Kindy tank's critters back home again - but that's neither here nor there - if I end up with something that doesn't work out, I'll figure out what to do to make it happy elsewhere in my home, or find it a GOOD home somewhere else. . .

So. . . whenever the 125 goes up, the 55g is going to be put into it - it will still be Becoming. I'm not stocking from scratch, I still have the shoal of Jelly Bean Tetra, Bolivian Rams, Kuhli Loaches and their Dwarf loach cousins . . . and a frog, but he might not be moved, depending on how he feels about things in such a big tank.

I'm fairly determined to add a grouping of Pearl Gourami to the mix, thinking 5-6. Anything else HAS to be okay with all of these, and that's where it gets tricky!
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Old 03-23-2013, 02:52 PM   #602
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Don't mean to bring up something unfortunate, but will the jellybeans be ok with pearl gouramis. I'm just asking because the one small one got eaten by your betta. I'm sure they've grown since then, but pearl gouramis are bigger than bettas.

I absolutely love those African butterfly barbs Olympia suggested! One day I will have them. I had looked into getting them before, but from what I read on them they prefer subtropical temperatures. My tanks are all mid 70s and that's the high end for them.

Was the $25 for the green laser cory? I remember Invertebrates by Msjinzkd having the orange at one time. I think they were less than $10.
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Old 03-23-2013, 03:42 PM   #603
 
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The orange ones, I didn't look into the greens.

As far as I can tell, the Pearls *should* coexist with the Tetra okay. I've been looking into this one for quite some time, and though they *CAN* eat them, it doesn't seem to be that likely with this particular Gourami. Have found many accounts of Pearls coexisting with smaller Tetra with no problems. I'm hoping that adding the Pearls as juvies and allowing them to grow out will help in keeping them from seeing the Tetra as a food source, and help the Tetra feel comfortable with the larger fish around. If I do decide to add other small fish, I'll be wanting to do that also before I put the Pearls in - for the same reasons. It's a risk, absolutely. . . can't really KNOW what's going to happen. . . There is also the potential for trouble between the Rams and the Pearls, but again, with the Pearls it *seems* to be something that will likely work out. Especially in such a large tank. Let me know if you think I'm wrong on this, though. . . I'd hate to kill or stress my babies!

The African Butterfly Barbs ARE really stunning. Husby, of course, is all like "BOOOOORING!" Didn't even get far enough to look at temp requirements, lol!
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Old 03-23-2013, 04:38 PM   #604
 
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Whaaat. How could someone NOT LIKE threadfin rainbows?! I've been obsessed with them since I first saw one, they are the most beautiful fish to me. I'd do anything for a school of them xD But I'd want a species only tank for them, and it would have to be perfect.

Well...if your hubby wants color, why not go back to basics with either Cardinals or Neons?
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Old 03-23-2013, 04:41 PM   #605
 
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I think they'd look silly in there with the others, they're so RED and BLUE, everything else is orange! Anyway. . . I'm not convinced that I want more Tetra. I'd prefer something different. LOL! I know, I'm difficult. I want EVERY fish I see, but I'm SOOOOOO picky somehow. . .

Anyway, it's MY tank, and my decision - not his. . . I'll *try* to find something that he likes, too - of course! But ultimately? MY tank, MY fish. MY choice. He knows it, too, lol.

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Old 03-23-2013, 05:32 PM   #606
 
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I was kind of hoping you'd say no xD I think they're pretty fish and all but...they just don't seem to match up to your tank. I seriously can't wait to see what you stock with, I know it's going to be gorgeous.

What are the dimensions of the 125?
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Old 03-23-2013, 05:41 PM   #607
 
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*whew* I was nervous that I'd offend you! I agree - they're BEAUTIFUL lil' fishies, but . . . not for this tank.

It's a six foot tank! O.o

72" x 18" x 21" is what it's *supposed* to be, Husby eyeballed it - but I still haven't gotten it here to measure myself. The 55g is 48" x 13" x 21" so I'll be getting quite a bit of extra room. . .
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Old 03-23-2013, 07:01 PM   #608
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The orange ones, I didn't look into the greens.

As far as I can tell, the Pearls *should* coexist with the Tetra okay. I've been looking into this one for quite some time, and though they *CAN* eat them, it doesn't seem to be that likely with this particular Gourami. Have found many accounts of Pearls coexisting with smaller Tetra with no problems. I'm hoping that adding the Pearls as juvies and allowing them to grow out will help in keeping them from seeing the Tetra as a food source, and help the Tetra feel comfortable with the larger fish around. If I do decide to add other small fish, I'll be wanting to do that also before I put the Pearls in - for the same reasons. It's a risk, absolutely. . . can't really KNOW what's going to happen. . . There is also the potential for trouble between the Rams and the Pearls, but again, with the Pearls it *seems* to be something that will likely work out. Especially in such a large tank. Let me know if you think I'm wrong on this, though. . . I'd hate to kill or stress my babies!

The African Butterfly Barbs ARE really stunning. Husby, of course, is all like "BOOOOORING!" Didn't even get far enough to look at temp requirements, lol!
Good taste! I've actually regretted not getting the orange lasers when I saw them for sale. Imagine how good they would have looked in my tank. There's also a red stripe, but in my opinion it is the least pretty.

I've no experience with either jellybreans or pearl gouramis. I'm not trying to talk you out of anything or say "There's no way that will work!", I'm just talking out loud and perhaps randomly. Did it say what sort of small tetras? My kitty tetras and your jellybeans are the same length, but mine are deep bodied while the jellies are torpedo shaped.
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Old 03-23-2013, 07:13 PM   #609
 
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I just thought...I'd say...if I see those laser orange or green cories, they are MINE. I don't care if I have to steal them. >_>; lol Those little fellas are neat! There's also blue cories, and I love blue. Blue is my color. But they don't look very blue...they look silver or transparent with a dark stripe in the middle. Still lovely...I don't think you can go wrong with cories. They're all cute, may not all be dashing colors and such, but they're all cute, peaceful and sweet.

If I were to recommend any corydora...it would be the Julii. They're smaller...but of all the cories I've owned, the trio I got my grandma are not only gorgeous, but they are NOT shy of us. They come literally dance in your face on the glass when you sit to watch them, they don't mess with the other fish(Mine live with a betta and they basically ignore him when he comes to investigate or move off and continue the food search), they seem to be a tad more for proteins than veggies than most cories I've had seem to be(ALL of them like shrimp and so not really recommended to put them with any small crustaceans as they will EAT them, but these little boogers have no interest in the veggies I put in for them that my other cories would rush over for), they don't mess with the plants although they do bump into them sometimes...and you could put a large mass of them in a tank as big as you have since they're so small. lol They wont mess with your loaches either, and as with most cories, wont pick on your gourami's, who usually wont pick on them either. If yours don't pick at your loaches, they should be fine with cories too. =)

Wait, did I give info already suggested? x.x;
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Old 03-23-2013, 08:51 PM   #610
 
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Haha, thanks, guys. . .

I'm nervous as hell about it, but. . . From everything I've read, and been told, and the tanks I've seen around, and the questions I've asked - PEARL Gourami, specifically, seem to be the ones that are okay - most of the time. Each fish will have their own temperament, so it's still going to be iffy, but the general 'rule' that I keep seeing repeated is as long as the Tetra is at least 3/4 of an inch, and the Pearls go in young/small - they rarely bother the smaller fish. I will be watching LIKE A HAWK, and if those Gourami take so much as a nibble at one of my lil' Beaners, something will change. . . I'll also be watching very closely to see if the 'Beans start to hide away as the Pearls grow. If they're nervy around them - again - something will change. My guess right now is that IF there is a problem, the most likely scenario will be that I get my African biotope with Beans and ADF and who knows what else set up in either a 20L or the 29. The 'Beans were living very happily in the 20L during their QT, so I know I can make them happy if they need to be moved. . . so yeah. Oh, and it seems like Neon Tetra and Harlequin rasbora are the most favorite of fish to keep with the Pearls. Neons do get bigger than the 'Beans, but the Beans are bigger than 3/4 of an inch. . . as for poor Horton (may he rest in peace) he was small. He never grew, I think it had something to do with his Speck. He was still WAY to big for the Betta to eat. I DO NOT understand how that happened, never will. He was a bit over half of an inch. . . I'm 100% positive that a full-grown gourami COULD eat the Beans. I'm just hoping that they won't!

I've really fallen in love with the Gold Laser Cory. . . I *almost* have my heart set on them. I just have a ton to learn about Cories in general before I'm 100% sold. Then to find them . . . I'm assuming they and the loaches won't bug each-other - but what about the Rams? They stay fairly close to the substrate, generally. . . I have to half-count them as bottom dwellers, too. Termato has Cories in his tank, and they're INSANELY active. Always seems to me like his little 'Livie is a bit stressed by all the activity. . . of course, he only has one Ram, and I only get to see him during video time . . . so it *might* be nothing. . .

Then. . .how many? Since I'll already have EIGHTEEN FREAKING LOACHES! Of course, 9 of them are dwarfs, they count as half-loaches. . . I'll only be ADDING 4 more 'normal sized' loaches (for a grand total of 13.5 ;)). Do you think I can really get away with ANOTHER shoal of bottom dwellers? I like the number 9 for my bottom dwellers, it seems. I suppose I ought to try to stick with that. Too many? The depth of this tank gives me a few inches back to front - and two extra feet, though. . . I'd be comfortable adding 4 loaches into the 55, so. . . Plus nobody will be moved/added until I have the plant coverage. . . *ponders*

Is there a problem with the temp. requirements? *scratches head*

Really need to look into these lil' Cory babies, I think!
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