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post #231 of 828 Old 11-24-2012, 06:39 PM Thread Starter
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Yup... buried. When I switched all of the plants and substrate over from the 29, it got lost in the substrate - I don't even know how deeply it's planted at this point. I thought it was gone for good - rotting somewhere under all of that sand, until I saw a tiny little shoot pop out. It's growing better than it ever has, so I'm not touching the poor thing!

It's a Red Tiger Lotus, but because my lighting is low, it's more green than red. Still has those pretty red spots throughout, though - which came as a surprise to me! I got the bulb in the first place knowing full well that chances were against me being able to grow it, but. . . it hasn't topped growing yet - despite all of my accidental attempts at killing it!

I'm so excited about this little plant, you don't even know! I've had this bulb since March, and it won't give up! Grow, lotus, GROW!
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post #232 of 828 Old 11-24-2012, 11:17 PM Thread Starter
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Got a call from my (crappy) LFS today - they FINALLY have gotten a shipment of Pangio kuhlii! YAY! I'm dubious, as I really don't trust this shop at all, but every decent LFS near me has closed down, and the chain shops don't carry the stripey guys for some reason. . . I think I'll bring home four of them, which will bring my total to 9 in this tank. I eventually want 12, but so many people seem to be having trouble with finding healthy stock - and the shops have been having a tough time getting them in, even when they don't all die. I don't want to push my luck. Plus I'm broke (but my Christmas shopping is done!). If I can get 4 through QT and into the 55, I'll try again with the next batch to get the remaining 3. I originally had a group of 3 and they were very active and never hid, so I think it will be fine. . . THREE CHEERS FOR LOACHES!

Wish me luck!
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post #233 of 828 Old 11-25-2012, 08:08 AM
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post #234 of 828 Old 11-25-2012, 03:56 PM Thread Starter
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Well... I am officially traumatized.

Went to get the new loaches. . . when got to the shop, the owner's wife told me that they didn't have any more (meaning that she didn't feel like catching them). I politely pointed out that I had called before I left my home and had someone check for me, and she reluctantly went to get them. Nice start!

So she's trying to catch them. . . usually, I see Kuhli kept in a bare-bottomed tank with a hide or two thrown in, because Kuhli loaches are notoriously difficult to catch, and can burrow under the substrate. THIS tank had gravel, and they were playing hard to get. I watched as the woman was stabbing the net into the gravel repeatedly, trying to scare them OUT, and net them - and failing miserably. I HAD to say something! Those might be my fish she was stabbing! So I mumbled something about how I hoped none of them were getting hurt under there. . . she stopped stabbing the gravel, and started taking nets full of gravel OUT and into her little catch-box, and then dumped the water with the loaches into the bag. . . eventually I asked if she wanted me to give it a try - but of course, that isn't allowed. I'm not usually so forward, but GOODNESS!!! It was a terrible experience. She counted the fish - I wanted FOUR - and said "I'm going to go get you an extra one, because I think I squashed one. . ."

When she went off to get the 'extra,' she left the catch-box with the bag inside of it on the counter, and that's when I realized that my new babies were REALLY babies. Tiny, teeny little loachlings. These loaches are SO small. I don't know how big they're supposed to be before being sold, but I've always seen them for sale pretty close to the 2.5 inch mark - these loaches are between 1 - 1.5 inches - they look like tiny bits of spaghetti noodles! I probably should have refused them, but after everything they had just gone through - I COULDN'T let her put them back into the tank, I had to bring them home and at least give them a fighting chance!

I counted FOUR loaches in the bag, and ONE underneath the bag, still in the box with a bit of gravel. When she came back, she added the 'extra' loach, and was about to dump the box out - so I shouted! "WAIT! THERE'S A FISH STILL IN THERE!" So she dumped him into the bag, too. I came home with 6 for the price of 4, but poor Squish didn't make it. He was alive when I got him home, but died within a few hours. . .

Of the five surviving loaches, ONE of them wasn't even a stripey - the 'extra' she got me is a black Kuhli. Guess she didn't feel like bothering to capture the right TYPE of loach, since I wasn't paying for him (because she squished the other one!), so I still have the four that I wanted, plus one black and one dead. But there's no way that I'm going to return him for a stripey one - I am NEVER setting foot into that shop again. . . unless it's to ask for a full refund when all of these die - which won't surprise me, considering how roughly she pulled them from the tank, and how young they are.

I was going to put them into a bigger tank to QT, but I was so afraid that I'd lose them! I ended up putting them into a fully cycled 3g tank - they have enough room to swim 8-10 body lengths before reaching the other side. No way I could keep an eye on them in a larger tank. It isn't ideal, but hopefully it'll be okay for a month or so - and hopefully they make it through and into the 55, where they will lead full and happy lives. Poor little things!

This shot is pretty close to actual size. . . they're smaller than my chapstick!

See the heater that he's hiding under? And yeah - that's a sandy bottom - not gravel. TINY TINY TINY FISH!!!

It's really tough not to get immediately attached to such adorable tiny little things, so I'm really hoping they're okay. . .

Does anyone know how well Pangio oblonga shoal with Pangio Kuhli? I wouldn't think there would be a problem, but if he needs his own shoal, Pet Smart has the Black Kuhli in stock always, and they're a FAR better shop then the LFS we have here. . . I can put them in the 29g tank, if I have to. *shakes head*

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post #235 of 828 Old 11-25-2012, 06:11 PM
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That's an awful experience Jes!! I hope the rest of your new babies survive!! Best of luck and keep us updated on them.
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post #236 of 828 Old 11-25-2012, 06:14 PM Thread Starter
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Thanks! I hope so, too. . .what a disaster!
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post #237 of 828 Old 11-25-2012, 06:27 PM
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That isn't the kind of luck I meant :(
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post #238 of 828 Old 11-25-2012, 06:31 PM Thread Starter
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ROFL!!! You should have specified - the GOOD kind!

'Sokay, if they make it through all of the turmoil of being caught and brought, they'll end up in a wonderful world. *crosses fingers for the 24 hour mark*
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post #239 of 828 Old 11-25-2012, 09:07 PM
Oh wow, those poor things. That is terrible that a person can care so little about her job and the animals. I hope they survive, the deserve it!
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post #240 of 828 Old 11-25-2012, 09:08 PM
poor babies. that woman sounds awful

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