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Old 10-11-2012, 08:02 AM   #191
 
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This is a thread about the 55 gallon tank. Plant list can be found toward the end of page 14. As for the fish, there are 20 wild-caught Jelly Bean Tetra, 5 Kuhli Loaches, and 4 Bolivian Rams. I have 1 male Bolivian ram in QT FOR this tank, but he has not been introduced to the main tank yet.

I'm not worried about the swords - or anything else, really - as long as they continue to grow as they have been, and the fish are happy - I'm good! I'm actually very much enjoying watching the saga unfold with them. . .and the rest of this tank. Very curious to see how it all comes out down the road. I took some shots of my tank and another crappy video, so you guys can see how much it's changed since day 3 (the original post) I'll upload them as soon as I get a chance, hopefully today sometime - but you know I'm a slacker, lol!

Thanks for the tips on the spraybar. . . I think it might be a matter of spinning the tube to get the flow to run in a slightly different way. There is a lot of pressure/flow - and that's fine, the fish seem to enjoy it.

The rams, in my experience, seem to like to 'play' in currents - they like to swim against the current, then 'let go' and allow themselves to be swept across the tank. I've noted this behaviour in other tanks that they've been kept in as well, and my little guy in QT likes to 'ride' the bubbler that's in his tank (silly things!)

The Beaners also seem to like the flow. Since they first arrived, I've noticed that they flock over when I pour water back into the tank at water changes. I often wonder exactly what their home was like, and if they may have lived near a waterfall! I don't think they MIND the current, but it cuts down directly through the center of the tank, which is where they sleep - I want them to have a calm spot to rest, and not have to 'struggle' against the current to be in the area they like best, if that makes sense. . .

The loaches. . . they don't care about anything, lol!

So it's really a matter of finding the balance that works best for the creatures in my tank - I'll figure it out, just getting used to the new system, really. It's quite a change from the 2 HOB filters that were in the tank previously.
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Old 10-11-2012, 11:13 AM   #192
 
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lol I have a friend who LOVES coffee as well. It's always coffee. =p There's also a Coffee Bean Tetra. The Coffee Pearl Danio is gorgeous. It looks like a darker version of the Celestial Pearl Danio, so it may just be an accident and not a real species...But hey, if the shoe fits, right? Haha.
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Old 10-11-2012, 11:42 AM   #193
 
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Awww, hunny! Thanks for the recommendation! The fact is that I ADORE Danno, the Celestial Pearls are STUNNING (look a lot like the Pearl Gourami, I think!) You've NAILED my tastes in this, for sure - and they'd look great in my tank. But Dannio prefer harder water and cooler temps - not the best match for this tank. Plus. . . they're so ACTIVE, I think they'd probably make some of my other fish a bit nervy!

No... stocking for THIS tank has been determined months ago, I'm sticking to it like glue!!!

Bolivian Rams, Kuhi Loaches, Dwarf Tetra, and. . . eventually. . . Pearl Gourami (when the tank is ready to expand again, and considering that all goes well until that point)

This will give me four VERY distinct types of fish from all over the world together in a (hopefully peaceful) community; I have fish from the families of Cichlid, Characidae, & Cobitidae - and eventually Anabantidae.

Always best to stick to a plan - there are SO many amazing fish out there, I can't be deterred!!!
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Old 10-11-2012, 12:07 PM   #194
 
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Ches not trying to lead you off your path (plan) but I think you got your Danios mixed up. Celestial Pearl Danios live in waters with 5 GH or less but with ph about 7.4 or so and a temp up to 78. I love these little fish but cant have them due to this.
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Old 10-11-2012, 12:07 PM   #195
 
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I will also add that the colour of the spa ray bar does not affect the algae growth at all its more likely to be the compound of the plastic that retards algal growth.... Green light actually has a tendency to encourage some types of algae.
Sorry Snappy, science disagrees with you on the green light! Green wavelengths are not utilized by chlorophylls or the other pigments in plants and that's why plants are green - it's a wavelength they reflect, not one they use. While there may be an algaecide in the Eheim tubing, I'd respectfully bet against it and still hypothesize a shading effect causing the reduced algae growth inside the spraybar.

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So how do YOU have your spray bar? I'm still trying to figure out everything about this new filtration system - it's so different from a HOB, and I'm not *quite* happy with things yet. I had it at the end of the tank on a diagonal, but didn't feel that I was getting enough movement at the surface that way.
Ok, my spraybar... (I'll try to post some pics later)
I started out like you, cutting the spraybar for my Eheim 2215 to fit across the short end of my 55. That worked well, but the flow was more than I wanted. I drilled more holes. Worked great. As I moved up to a larger filter on the 55 (Eheim 2217 now), I had way too much current! I purchashed some clear acrylic tubing. I then used a drill press to drill holes in the tubing about every 1" (holes were same size as Eheim spray bar openings). I cut the 36" spraybar in 1/2 so my cleaning brush would fit through each portion. I connected the 2 pieces using a short piece of clear tubing I bought at a home improvement store. I capped the end using a very short piece of tubing that I 1/2 filled with silicone. Using Eheim suction cups w/plastic clips (purchased on-line), I mounted it to the back glass of my 55. I cut the plastic inflow tube and joined the now-cut pieces together with another small piece of clear tubing - now it rotates 90 degrees and the water return pipe over the tank lip doesn't hang off the end of my tank!
The discharge is slightly under the water's surface and I angle it up very slightly to get a "ripple" on the surface. I can tell I need to add water when I start hearing more flow noise (my tank is open-top).
Need less flow? Direct the output toward the tank glass. Need more flow? Cut some of the plastic tubing lengthwise and cover a portion of the spraybar holes.

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Old 10-11-2012, 12:15 PM   #196
 
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I'm all for tips and tricks on cleaning The Beast! I'm still not really comfortable with it at all, and have yet to open the darn thing since I put it up!
Many folks here clean their canisters every 3 to 6 months. I have never been able to go more than 3 weeks or so, less when I had the 2215. I try to clean every couple of weeks. Plants are messy and tend to clog things up. Here are a few Eheim classic canister tips:

If flow is reduced, it may be due to "slime" buildup in the intake or outflow hoses. I have to clean mine every two weeks to maintain maximum flow.
* If your filter is anything other than very quiet, something's wrong.
- Check the inflow for restrictions
- Check for clogging
- Clean the impeller
- Apply vasoline (use a q-tip) to o-ring on the motor housing, the filter may be sucking air.
* If you hate the loose media, save those mesh ham or turkey bags from the grocery store, cut off the tag, tie a knot in one end and voila, a mesh bag for the filter media. (doesn't always work for the small ceramic balls)
* If you don't like the mesh bag idea, use a colander when doing a filter clean, and dump the loose media in there to avoid scooping it out by hand.
* If you have to replace the ceramic/glass filter media, other brands are much cheaper than Eheim and work just as well!

Get a long cleaning brush, with an end small enough to fit through your tubing. Using string trimmer line, you can feed the doubled-up string trimmer line through your hoses and then pull the cleaning brush (attached before you start!) through the hose you are cleaning. Works great!

hope that helps some...
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Old 10-11-2012, 12:38 PM   #197
 
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If figured, Chesh, but since you said you love that coffee so much, I thought I'd name them off. lol Also, I heard Celestial Pearl Danios can be very nippy, especially the boys, and you're right, they may make your fish nervey.

You could always go for the "Coffee" theme next tank. x) Actually, I said that to be silly..but that sounds kinda fun!

I've fixed up my nursery/kuhli tank quite a bit, maybe I'll show you a photo later. However, it is a mere bobble to your diamond! I can't wait until I can do things like you with my tanks. When I get my bigger ones, I certainly will try! It's all trial and error when making themes or decorating, ya? =p
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Old 10-11-2012, 01:04 PM   #198
 
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[quote=DKRST;1271824]Sorry Snappy, science disagrees with you on the green light! Green wavelengths are not utilized by chlorophylls or the other pigments in plants and that's why plants are green - it's a wavelength they reflect, not one they use. While there may be an algaecide in the Eheim tubing, I'd respectfully bet against it and still hypothesize a shading effect causing the reduced algae growth inside the spraybar.



DKRST thats not the full story now is it? many algaes are actually encouraged by green light.... most of the cyanobacter algae ARE encouraged by green light.... what you have referred to here is only relevant to green algaes which actually only account for less than 20% of algaes commonly found in aquariums. I can in fact tell you that the pigments for green tubing used by eheim are a retardant to algae and its something that eheim has spent a lot of money on.... because it helps the efficiency of their filter.
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Old 10-11-2012, 04:48 PM   #199
 
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DKRST thats not the full story now is it? many algaes are actually encouraged by green light.... most of the cyanobacter algae ARE encouraged by green light.... what you have referred to here is only relevant to green algaes which actually only account for less than 20% of algaes commonly found in aquariums. I can in fact tell you that the pigments for green tubing used by eheim are a retardant to algae and its something that eheim has spent a lot of money on.... because it helps the efficiency of their filter.
I'm not going to hijack this thread, but one more reply won't hurt, I suppose. Snappy, I'd be happy to continue it on another thread if you like. It's a neat topic for discussion. I defer to you on the Eheim and algaecidal properties. I (respectfully) reject your assertion on the light spectrum range of algae (see Limnol. Oceanogr., 37(2), 1992,434-4410 1992, by the American Society of Limnology and many others). Chlorophyll A and B do NOT utilize the green spectrum. Been teaching bio since 1988, reasonably confident of my information regarding photosynthesis. Teaching it this week to my freshmen in fact! PhD. myself and a microbiologist wife. Green light does not promote energy production via photosynthesis - sorry

"Algaes" other than green (brown for instance) are not necessarily true algae, they are diatoms or sometimes protists.
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I'm not going to hijack this thread, but one more reply won't hurt, I suppose. Snappy, I'd be happy to continue it on another thread if you like. It's a neat topic for discussion. I defer to you on the Eheim and algaecidal properties. I (respectfully) reject your assertion on the light spectrum range of algae (see Limnol. Oceanogr., 37(2), 1992,434-4410 1992, by the American Society of Limnology and many others). Chlorophyll A and B do NOT utilize the green spectrum. Been teaching bio since 1988, reasonably confident of my information regarding photosynthesis. Teaching it this week to my freshmen in fact! PhD. myself and a microbiologist wife. Green light does not promote energy production via photosynthesis - sorry

"Algaes" other than green (brown for instance) are not necessarily true algae, they are diatoms or sometimes protists.
Im happy to be educated..... so waht of the blue algaes? and red algaes ... how do they work? I work ont he basis of found experience so would be happy to discuss this with you.
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