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Old 10-04-2012, 02:01 AM   #161
 
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LoL Well actually I do have some at home but unfortunately for you its to thin for the job. If I knew what I did with the cover I had you could have it but not sure where it is anymore. Ohhh and definitely don't need anymore to do with my crazy .... work schedule!!
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Old 10-05-2012, 02:19 PM   #162
 
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Oh wow Chesh, a lot has happened since I checked back on here. Sorry for the loss on your Rams :( That is never fun.

I hope they are finally settling in now. I have just started treating Lucas with the General Cure. I'm stilll really debating doing what you are doing with the giant community of Rams. Big decisions haha.

I need to come back here with a little more time and read through everything :P
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Old 10-05-2012, 04:16 PM   #163
 
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Hey Termie! Nice to hear from you again, been wondering how you've been up to over there!

Just to clarify, this wasn't one of my babies in the 55g tank, thank God! Alice, C.Cat, Hattie, and Liz are just fine - settled in and doing wonderfully. Beautiful and happy little things, just as they were in the 29g tank. Gah, I love them! This was one of the new fish that was in QT - the female.

The male is still in QT and being treated with General Cure, and he will remain in QT for 8 weeks before I even think about putting him into the community. At this point. . . I'm terrified to mix him in, just because of her - which isn't exactly fair, but. . . well. Time will tell. Hopefully all will be well.

I'm still feeling pretty shaky since she was 3 days off from the 4 week mark when this happened, and she went from normal behavior to death really quickly. . . it really brings home how how utterly important it is to quarantine new arrivals, and I'll be QTing any new additions for 8 weeks from now on.

I hope your little Lucas gets better. I posted updated images of C.Cat, not sure if you saw them, but he's the one who was suffering from the protozoan infection that we suspect your Lucas has. All these months later, he's still on the thin side, but otherwise seems healthy as can be and growing.

PetSmart just doesn't seem to have healthy stock for Bolivian Rams, sad to say, because that's the only place I can find them locally. I tried to get in touch with the corporate head vet to see where their stock comes from, and if he's aware that there seem to be so many issues with them (I've bothered him before about ADF and Chytrid, really nice guy!). He's traveling at the moment, so hopefully will give me a call back whenever he returns (he did last time).

I'm seriously considering returning the male to PetSmart and ordering from a breeder. Shipping would cost a fortune, but for healthy fish that aren't raised on a farm and treated with Lord knows what before getting this far. . . it's probably worth the expense, ultimately. . . but I'm poor, lol!
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Old 10-06-2012, 12:57 AM   #164
 
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Hey Termie! Nice to hear from you again, been wondering how you've been up to over there!

Just to clarify, this wasn't one of my babies in the 55g tank, thank God! Alice, C.Cat, Hattie, and Liz are just fine - settled in and doing wonderfully. Beautiful and happy little things, just as they were in the 29g tank. Gah, I love them! This was one of the new fish that was in QT - the female.

The male is still in QT and being treated with General Cure, and he will remain in QT for 8 weeks before I even think about putting him into the community. At this point. . . I'm terrified to mix him in, just because of her - which isn't exactly fair, but. . . well. Time will tell. Hopefully all will be well.

I'm still feeling pretty shaky since she was 3 days off from the 4 week mark when this happened, and she went from normal behavior to death really quickly. . . it really brings home how how utterly important it is to quarantine new arrivals, and I'll be QTing any new additions for 8 weeks from now on.

I hope your little Lucas gets better. I posted updated images of C.Cat, not sure if you saw them, but he's the one who was suffering from the protozoan infection that we suspect your Lucas has. All these months later, he's still on the thin side, but otherwise seems healthy as can be and growing.

PetSmart just doesn't seem to have healthy stock for Bolivian Rams, sad to say, because that's the only place I can find them locally. I tried to get in touch with the corporate head vet to see where their stock comes from, and if he's aware that there seem to be so many issues with them (I've bothered him before about ADF and Chytrid, really nice guy!). He's traveling at the moment, so hopefully will give me a call back whenever he returns (he did last time).

I'm seriously considering returning the male to PetSmart and ordering from a breeder. Shipping would cost a fortune, but for healthy fish that aren't raised on a farm and treated with Lord knows what before getting this far. . . it's probably worth the expense, ultimately. . . but I'm poor, lol!
The LFS' around here have been keeping some good looking BRs and I will be searching through the area for some....I think. Then discuss MUHAHAH.

Yeah lets hope Lucas gets better.

I'm sorry for the loss, that sucks :(

A lot of breeders will sell you BRs without guarantee of gender so you have to really look for a good one. If you find one, let me know! :D
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Old 10-06-2012, 06:42 AM   #165
 
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You're right, Termie and gender IS an issue to me - I want one male and one female to complete my group... I'm not sure if it matters or not when Rams are in a shoal - and through watching other people's tanks, I don't *think* it does. But after seeing what you've dealt with as far as aggression, I'd rather play it safe. Most of the breeders also sell in lots of 6, and that's too many for me to QT at once (and more than I've planned for my tank). Plus. . . I really prefer to look at the fish and bring home the ones that 'ask' me to.

Hmmmmm. . . I might have to plan a daytrip to Termieville and see what y'all have going on in your LFS over there. Have you officially decided that you want to try a shoal of rams, too? I really think (based on my limited experience over the last six months or so) it's the best way to go. My crew has always been really happy and brightly colored when they're together, and they interact beautifully, I've now kept rams singly, in couples, trios, and my shoal of four - depending on what was going on at the time. A lonely ram IS lonely - at least, they are when they're used to being in a group. Couples (if not mated) and trios seem to be a recipe for disaster. My four have done so well, but I wanted 6 from the start. . . I WILL have my 6. . . . eventually!

You're still on about Discus? *shakes head* Good luck with that, man!
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Old 10-06-2012, 07:04 AM   #166
 
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You're still on about Discus? *shakes head* Good luck with that, man![/quote]

Termie if you are wanting to keep discus.... you need to SERIOUSLY KNOW WHAT YOU ARE DOING WITH CONTROLLING WATER CHEMISTRY..... Im not saying you dont.... I barely know you .... But i do and will say this to anyone.... they are a very very difficult fish to keep if your knowledge of water chemistry and their own behaviour is lacking in ANY way..... they really are not a fish to learn with.... you must already have learnt!

I dont mean to seem rude about this but they are expensive and delicate at teh same time.... so to avoid dispointment and deaths its worth thinking about this vvery very hard!
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Old 10-06-2012, 07:34 AM   #167
 
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Haha, yeah. . . Discus are gorgeous, and tricky! Maybe someday I'll be ready for them, but no time soon - I'm too much of a beginner. . . I'll happily stick to my beautiful Bolivians. . . be careful, Termie!
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Old 10-06-2012, 03:10 PM   #168
 
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Haha, yeah. . . Discus are gorgeous, and tricky! Maybe someday I'll be ready for them, but no time soon - I'm too much of a beginner. . . I'll happily stick to my beautiful Bolivians. . . be careful, Termie!
Discus are gorgeous! I personally like the dark, rich cuolors. The orange/red colours and the striped ones I dont like at all. But that just me.
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Old 10-06-2012, 05:28 PM   #169
 
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Pearl, you're right - they're really just gorgeous creatures. The variety of colors and patterns on the various breeds is mind-boggling. I like the stripey ones too, though. . .

A world renown breeder of Discus actually has a shop here in Baltimore - not even that far away. . . I WILL get over there at some point just to see his babies. I have a feeling that anything I've ever seen in the 'normal' shops around here are a pale shadow of what Discus can be. . . I've heard that he's often willing to take people back into his hatcheries to see things in action. What a fun field trip that would be!

Discus are really super-sensitive, and though the parameters in my tanks are super-consistent, I'm so not ready for that yet! Maybe when the kids are grown up and moved out, I can get a giant Discus tank. It'll look stunning among all of the OTHER 'dream' tanks I'll have by then, lol! For now? I'm perfectly happy with my little tiny dwarf Cichlids that will forgive me my beginner status AND fit into my tank, lol!
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Old 10-08-2012, 10:24 PM   #170
 
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Talking Lovely little loachlings. . .

So by now I imagine that most of you are pretty well aware of the fact that I love fish. All fish, but most especially MY fish. . . the tank, the plants - I love the whole caboodle, but it's all about the fish - cuz' they're the greatest! I'm like a momma proudly showing off a pocketful of pictures - and like any self-respecting mom, I take WAY more pictures than anyone ever wants to look at.

. . . well I *GUESS* this would be the right place to post a few. . .


I'm gonna devote this post to my lovely little Loachlings. . . they're such cool critters, I really hope that I can find a few more to add to their shoal, not that they seem to mind that there are so few of them, but because they're so much fun! More of a good thing is always better! I have five right now: Winkin, Blinkin', Nod, Flotsam, and Jetsam. Winkin, Blinkin, and Nod are the first 3 I got. Even when there were ONLY three, they never hid, and have always been active. I started with three because I'd read that the type of sand I use could be an issue, and I wanted to be sure. It hasn't been, but now I can't FIND them anywhere! I can tell my babies apart easily on sight, but also by their very distinct personalities - they're definitely individuals...



In the image above are Flotsam and Nod - they really love those floaters beyond all belief. It's so cute to watch them intentionally tangling themselves up just so - when they find a comfy spot, they just hang out. Sometimes they manage to hold still up there for some time, but usually this is not the case. It *might* be that the current or their weight shifts and the plants don't hold them for long, but I suspect the problem is with the loaches themselves. Loaches are like toddlers - they CAN NOT hold still for very long - way too squirmy, gotta go go go! They're forever poking those little barbels into every nook and cranny in search of one last bite left behind. . .



It's been a lot of fun watching them in this new tank. Not that they weren't fun in the 29g, but I definitely had them in mind when I placed the rocks and the plants. They seem to be appreciating my effort, and over the last month, Loachville has really developed into it's own environment at the bottom of the 55. . .



Above is a picture of Winkin' and below is Nod. These are two of my most personable loaches - Nod most especially. That's saying a lot for the Loachlings - as a rule they ignore my existence entirely. . . Nod is my favorite. He was less than 2 inches long when I got him way back whenever it was. He's grown since then, but I think he'll always be my little guy. . . (or girl?) Isn't he CUTE!!?



It's tough to get good snaps of them, for one because they're always on the move, but also because they're at the bottom, behind and between and beneath everything and anything they can be. It isn't that they're hiding. . . not that at all - it's just the way their world is. I like to rest my head on the table and really see things as they do - the tank looks entirely different from their point of view.



. . .to a loach, the smallest rocks are mountains, and even the tiniest plants tower above. It's neat to see the underside of things, and notice how they move about. It isn't random - there are little loachy highways - paths that run from here to there around the tank floor (often through plants) that they favor. They know EXACTLY where the food falls, and WILL find every last bit if it takes them all night! Above is a picture of Nod underneath my surprise baby Lotus. It's only got 5 tiny leaves, and is *slightly* over an inch high - but to Nod? That's a pretty big plant! Because of the way they view the world, and how their amazing bodies are shaped - they don't go AROUND things - they go THROUGH them. While a 'normal' fish would cruise above or beside a cluster of grasses, the loaches see the spaces in between the blades - and slide right through without missing a beat. They're small enough not to cause harm, and they really seem to enjoy getting all twizzled up in the middle of a nice plant. And they frikkin' FROLIC. I swear they do!



. . . of course, they ALSO like their little caves - those are new, and I deliberately designed them into the rock-work in this tank for them. They seem to appreciate them, but not as much as the plants. I love it when they all pile into one spot and I can't tell head from tail and one from another. The writhe for a moment or three, then go about their silly loachy business - whatever that may be. It's nice to be a loach, I suspect. . . no matter what's going on at the top of the tank, the bottom more or less remains the same. If I prune leaves, the Rams get mad, the Tetra might feel shy - but the bases of the plants are still there - not that it matters. These guys are not territorial in the slightest bit, and I get the distinct feeling that they ENJOY having things rearranged from time to time - keeps them entertained. And if a leaf falls to the floor, it's like Christmas! The messier the ground is, the happier they seem to be. They really loved it when I had Hornwort in my tank - that stuff was constantly dropping leaf litter all over the place - creating a loachy paradise. Now that it's autumn, I'm seriously considering tossing a fistful of dried oak leaves in for them - I just know they'll love it!



I feel like Kuhli don't really deserve their reputation - everything I read about these guys seems to imply that they're shy, and since they're nocturnal, you really won't see them much unless you have a scad and a bunch of them. But this has been the exact opposite of my experience with these fish since the day I brought them home. Even when there were only three, they've always been very visible, prowling around even during daylight hours. I honestly don't know when they sleep - if they're also up all night, then they might not! Maybe it's because I've always had so many fun plants for them to play in - they really can't seem to resist a good tumble in some greenery. . . Silly little loachlings. . . I love them - and I'm really glad that they seem so happy with me!

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