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Old 09-17-2012, 07:24 PM   #111
 
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Ches how are things going with your tank? Any updates????
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Old 09-17-2012, 10:52 PM   #112
 
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Thank you for asking!!! Everything is going well - I REALLY have to post some pics, I will - I'm sorry - I've been SO insanely busy. Playing catch-up from being laying around and snuggling all day while we were all sick, lol. Laundry waits for no fishes! I'll post an update soon. . .
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Old 09-18-2012, 01:02 AM   #113
 
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I understand Ches but we NEED pics! LoL
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Old 09-18-2012, 08:34 AM   #114
 
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I KNOW!!! I actually nabbed a few - not brilliant ones, but pics nevertheless. . . only, my computer told me that I have too many photos and won't let me take them off my camera! Looks like I need to catch up on computer housework, too! I take entirely too many pictures!

Random canister questions for anyone who knows:


So I have an Eheim classic now and it's SO different from my HOB filter, I have a few questions!

First, back to the spraybar - it's on the short end of the tank at a diagonal angle right now, because it's too big to fit across the top. I feel like it SHOULD be horizontal, and would do more with regards to agitating the water surface that way, do they make shorter ones that would be the right size? Or can I cut this one down? Or am I just being silly? My other question is WHY ON EARTH do they make these things in such an ugly, obvious GREEN!? It doesn't match the plants in any way. . .I don't understand why this would be the default color! I was hoping that I'd see LESS junk in the tank with the canister! Are there spraybars for these filters that come in black or a transparent version? I know I'm being silly, but it's BOTHERING me!!!

Next question is this - how often does the actual canister need to be opened up and cleaned? With my HOB filters (I had 2 on the 29g), I actually HAD to clean them up every week with my water change or they'd get really gunky - the Mollies were in the tank then, so had a lot to do with that, I suspect. . . and I'm sure the bioload applies directly to this question, anyway, but I was just wondering what you guys do?

How will I KNOW when the media needs to be replaced? With HOB. . . it's kind of obvious when the filter foam starts to disintegrate, and I'm sure with the pads it'll be obvious, but what about the rest of the random media in the canister?

Sorry, I know these are probably really obvious questions that I should just use the search function for, I just haven't had the chance to really look into it yet! This is such an odd new thing for me, canister filtration is a different universe - to be honest, the thing is kind of scary!

Thanks in advance for any advice you can toss my way!
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Old 09-18-2012, 11:41 AM   #115
 
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LoL Jes I asked the same question when I got my canister. I hate the spray being GREEN!! If I could figure out how to hide it I would!!! I don't know of a clear one but there maybe one out there just Google it and see. As for how you got it positioned and wanting more surface agitation. That's easy just move it up where one or two holes are at the surface. I have it that way. I actually only have one hole at the surface line but you could make it two one would just be above the water line. I thought about cutting mine too. That can be done as well but if you ever got a wider tank then yout spray bar would be too short. Though you can always buy a replacement one for that tank.

Cleaning the filter well general rule of thumb is when you notice less flow coming out its time to clean the filter. I have always heard every 3 months but this can obviously vary depending on the bioload. I have never changed the media in mine. Though its getting close for me to change out the ceramic noodles (forgot the actual name). The media itself I just rinse off with hot water when they get too overloaded. There is a time line that Ehiem says you need to replace those but have forgotten now and that media isn't cheap!! The only actually thing I have changed out is the polishing pad. It falls apart pretty easy. After the first time I threw it out and replaced it with filter floss. Much Much cheaper and IMO does the same. Hope this helps some!
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Old 09-18-2012, 03:02 PM   #116
 
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Ohhhhh they make clear pvc piping. Schedule 40 Harvel Clear PVC Pipe - ClearPVCpipe.com If you figure out the size of you spray bar you could just replace it with that!
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Old 09-19-2012, 12:03 PM   #117
 
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I KNOW!!! I actually nabbed a few - not brilliant ones, but pics nevertheless. . . only, my computer told me that I have too many photos and won't let me take them off my camera! Looks like I need to catch up on computer housework, too! I take entirely too many pictures!

Random canister questions for anyone who knows:


So I have an Eheim classic now and it's SO different from my HOB filter, I have a few questions!

First, back to the spraybar - it's on the short end of the tank at a diagonal angle right now, because it's too big to fit across the top. I feel like it SHOULD be horizontal, and would do more with regards to agitating the water surface that way, do they make shorter ones that would be the right size? Or can I cut this one down? Or am I just being silly? My other question is WHY ON EARTH do they make these things in such an ugly, obvious GREEN!? It doesn't match the plants in any way. . .I don't understand why this would be the default color! I was hoping that I'd see LESS junk in the tank with the canister! Are there spraybars for these filters that come in black or a transparent version? I know I'm being silly, but it's BOTHERING me!!!

Next question is this - how often does the actual canister need to be opened up and cleaned? With my HOB filters (I had 2 on the 29g), I actually HAD to clean them up every week with my water change or they'd get really gunky - the Mollies were in the tank then, so had a lot to do with that, I suspect. . . and I'm sure the bioload applies directly to this question, anyway, but I was just wondering what you guys do?

How will I KNOW when the media needs to be replaced? With HOB. . . it's kind of obvious when the filter foam starts to disintegrate, and I'm sure with the pads it'll be obvious, but what about the rest of the random media in the canister?

Sorry, I know these are probably really obvious questions that I should just use the search function for, I just haven't had the chance to really look into it yet! This is such an odd new thing for me, canister filtration is a different universe - to be honest, the thing is kind of scary!

Thanks in advance for any advice you can toss my way!
You could always ask your GURU!!!!!
Anyways the spray abr is intended to have the effect of making as much of the water move as possible.... that facilitates o2 and n2 exchange.... so the spraybar needs to be positioned so that the streams that come out of the whole will skim across the water surface hense moving it. Of course you can cut the spray abr down but you must remember to close the end off again otherwise the flow will simply shoot down the tube and out, not out of the holes along the tube.

Why are they green..... god only knows!

As for when to change the media..... this is a very observation based thing and you need to keep a close eye on the output of the pump..... most often the media doesn't need changing so much as rinsing..... IN WATER FROM THE TANK ...... Pretty please!

Does this help lil gills?
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Old 09-19-2012, 12:15 PM   #118
 
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Of course it helps, darling! Thank you, as always, for you input!

I DO have decent agitation at the water surface, between the spraybar and the bubbler, but this is the reason why I was asking. I feel that since I have the thing, keeping it at a diagonal isn't giving me (and thus the fish) the full benefit of the power behind it. And it IS a much. . . gentler way of agitating the surface than the old HOB filters were. I love that it isn't bothering the plants, but still moving the water along. The OTHER benefit to keeping it horizontal is that the darn ugly green spraybar wont' be SO obvious and interfere with my driftwood when placed that way. . .

I haven't had the time to go searching to see if spray-bars are available at the right size to fit my tank, though with a company as huge and respected as Eheim, I'd HAVE to assume they are. Hopefully I can find a replacement for a reasonable price (and preferably in a better color scheme!) and save this one in case of emergency, or for future use on a larger tank. . . I'll be sure to let you know what comes of my searches. My husband can cut this one down easily, so if I have to go that route, I plan to. I don't like it as it is now!

LOL! Don't worry! I know to rinse filter media in tank water! Just wondering if there was any sort of general rule. I think that many people on this site rinse off with every water change, and . . . well eventually I'll figure it out, but just now I'm still a bit intimidated by the canister! I don't WANT to take it apart all of the time, as I feel like I'll break it somehow - and that's a pretty penny to waste!!! My husband will be helping me with it for the first few rounds. He's just. . . naturally good with things like this. I'm. . . not.

Oh! And Boredomb. . . thanks for looking up that info for me. I'll consider it. . . but I'm still so WEIRD about putting things that aren't made for tanks into mine. I know people do it all of the time, I just get nervous! If I can cut this one down, the green shouldn't be so obvious, I think. . . it should work out and make everyone happy!
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Old 09-19-2012, 12:41 PM   #119
 
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Jes Pvc piping is perfectly safe for aquariums as ppl have been using it forever. Though I do understand your concerns and hesitation! Also just wanted to say that rinsing you media off in hot water is about the only to get the scum build up off. Remember there is more bacteria in you tank then your filter so once the tank is established your won't send it into a cycle doing that. I generally only rinse the course blue pad and the media this way. The rest of the stuff I rinse in tank water. I also change out the filter floss every 3 months.

As for breaking the filter by taking it apart well that would be kinda hard to do but do watch the seal on the motor that fits between the canister and it. That can wear out over time. You can use a small amount of petroleum jelly on it. Will help it last longer.
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Old 09-19-2012, 01:43 PM   #120
 
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Oh! And Boredomb. . . thanks for looking up that info for me. I'll consider it. . . but I'm still so WEIRD about putting things that aren't made for tanks into mine. I know people do it all of the time, I just get nervous! If I can cut this one down, the green shouldn't be so obvious, I think. . . it should work out and make everyone happy![/quote]
One of the things you will find with fishkeeping is improvisation.... one of my absolute dreams is to make a fish tank and cabinet...a full setup..... from scratch..... and i mean from from scratch!
Lets face it you know what im doing with regard to water..... the tap water here is crap so im improvising!
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