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Old 02-23-2013, 11:42 AM   #251
 
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Just HAPPY that she's doing okay now, and if I see any similar symptoms in ol' Toots, I'll know that it'll pass! We aren't sure what happened to her. It seemed to be some type of intestinal blockage, but we didn't take her to the vet. I TOLD my husband to do it, but he decided that considering her age. . . well, the sad facts are that 1. we didn't have the money to put out for any surgical procedures, and if the other option was to put her down, we preferred that she die here in her own home with people who loved her instead of being kept in a vet office. Even being sick, we felt that the stress she'd go through being in a kennel in the hospital would lessen her chances of life. She stopped eating and drinking, and just layed perfectly still panting - very unahppy. She's my husband's dog, he had her since before we were married, and . . . we have a bit of a stormy history (she resents that spot in the bed that I stole from her!) But he was so heartbroken at the thought of losing her, he really couldn't DEAL with it. Sounds bad, but. . . well, I understand. So I sat up with her night after night, talking softly to her, watching dog documentaries and shows, and stroking her tummy, from top to bottom with some pressure, in the hopes of getting whatever it was - OUT. It seemed to hurt her when I did that, only she LEANED into my hand, like it was a GOOD hurt, if that makes sense. . . and I just couldn't bear the thought of her possibly dying alone in the night. When I slept, I slept next to her on her dog bed, lol! I was NOT going to let this pup go without a fight! We also put up baby gates to keep her away from the kids while she was feeling bad, and lots of fluffy pillows. . . after three or four days of this, she POOPED for the first time!!! Can't tell you how excited we were! A day after that, I was able to convince her to eat chicken and rice that I made just for her, and a few days later, we were able to move her to wet food and slowly weaned her back onto her normal diet. She's been fine ever since :) I really still believe that if we had taken her into the animal hospital, she'd be dead right now. . . so yeah - the love of a family does wonders for the fuzzy members. I really believe that :D

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Old 02-24-2013, 12:19 AM   #252
 
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I understand completely about costs. It was almost 300 to take Blondie to the vet, the prices are insane. And I agree, better for her to be comfortable at home than alone in a kennel at an unfamiliar place. We were told that if Blondie had trouble to board her there, but what could they do for her that we couldn't, besides an IV? And I understands, it's incredibly hard to deal with losing a pet, and everyone copes in their own ways. I'm so happy for you that she pulled through, I know just how heartbreaking it is to just have to stand by and watch.


On another note, got some new tank shots today. Plus one of the QT tank up and somewhat running! I still need a filter for it though, and a heater. Everything else is there. Oh, and a glass lid, gonna have to get my hands on one of those.
I'm debating between three types of filter...sponge, internal, or a Rapids Mini Canister. Internal is the most expensive, sponge is the cheapest. My biggest beef with the sponge though is that it runs on an air pump, and those things are louuuud.

Photos in the next post.
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Old 02-24-2013, 12:54 AM   #253
 
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Pictures of my tank, plus a bonus shot of a wisteria leaf that broke off awhile ago and was floating around the main tank...it started growing some roots. So I pulled off a few other leaves to have them floating too, really curious to see what they do!

Also, I did have shots of the QT, but I've already rearranged it so they would be pointless xD I'll take some in a few and get them up.
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Old 02-24-2013, 12:56 AM   #254
 
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Old 02-24-2013, 08:20 AM   #255
 
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Hooray!!! Setting up a new tank is always so much fun - EVEN a QT tank!

I'm really happy to see that you've decided to go with the 'comfort' method to quarantine. I know I left a book on your thread about that, lol, sorry! I just really feel strongly that it IS in the best interest of the fish, for so many reasons, and I wanted to back that method up. It's worked for me - proof is in the behavior of my wild caught dwarf loaches and jellybean tetra between when they arrived, stressed out and nervous, and how comfortable they were by the end of their QT - and the fact that they didn't show ANY signs of stress after being moved to the main tank in my home. Just really amazing what a little bit of R&R will do, and I'm sure things would have been different if they had been kept in a bare-bones tank!

The plants look GORGEOUS!!! I know your next group of Rassies and loaches will be very comfortable in there when all is said and done - and I can't wait for you to start stocking again, even though I totally understand if it takes a little while for you to be ready to move on from your last horrible experience. *cries*

A lot of people prefer sponge filters in a QT tank, sponges are so good at colonizing bacteria. I've never done a canister filter in my QT tanks. . . but I think that even if money weren't an option, I'd be likely to go with a HOB or a sponge filter regardless. My reasoning for this is that you want to be able to easily dump in seeded media from your other tank(s) and have backup media available on top of that to avoid dangerous spikes should the situation arise in which you are required to use medication(s) that will harm the bacterial colony and/or plants - and I've found it to be fairly easy to 'hide' an extra sponge or two behind rocks/plants/driftwood in my main tanks, where I'm not *so* sure I could easily add extra media to a canister, or that it wouldn't cause 'wiggles' in my main tank if/when it was removed. . .

The only OTHER thing that I'd *possibly* change is to remove the driftwood and replace it either with a nice-looking plastic decoration or just rocks. The logic behind this is that driftwood absorbs all kinds of stuff. If you DID have to use a hard-core medication, the wood would 'hold' some residual of that medication, which could *possibly* harm the next batch of critters to go in - if they were sensitive to the med used (like loaches). I used driftwood in my jelly bean QT, and all was fine, I didn't need to medicate, but I've been thinking about this quite a bit lately with the Kindy tank. I'm REALLY feeling leery of re-using the wood that's in that tank for any of my home tanks. Regardless of medication, I'm afraid that there may be nothing I can do to properly 'clean' it to get rid of any contaminates from whatever illness is going through that tank. *most* fishy pathogens will not be able to survive a 30 day period without a host, but some - like the more virulent form(s) of fish TB can even survive full drying/bleach, and still come back to haunt you - and obviously there's no way to thoroughly clean something as porous as wood. HOPEFULLY you'll never run into something like that, but it's still a potential concern, so I thought I'd put it out there. . . I worry about EVERYTHING, lol!

You'll also want to do your best to ensure that parameters between the tanks (esp water hardness, and with more sensitive fish, nitrates) remain the same. . . leaves are in both of your setups, but it's something to bear in mind if they're softening your water - you don't want your fish to have to re-adjust to parameters after the move :)

I'm so excited for you, and for your pretty QT tank! I can't wait to see how happy the next group of babies are in there, and how quickly they settle in! You're such a good and concerned fish-keeper. It always makes me SO happy to see people like you, who take the time to do things right. Kudos - and keep up the great work!!!!
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Old 02-24-2013, 08:06 PM   #256
 
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Lol I totally forgot to respond to that post, I really appreciated it though. All the information was really helpful, and I do agree with the fish needing a place to calm down and get used to the water. Plus it means I can have the tank be pretty <.< Haha.

Those two shots are of my main tank, lol, not the QT :) Unless you were psychic and somehow knew I have driftwood in the QT, haha. I'm thinking that if I have to medicate I'd take it out, do you think that would be okay? I'm thinking of just nabbing a 10gal to have in storage if I need to use an in-water medication, and have a seeded sponge filter on hand to throw in there, leaving the rest bare besides maybe something to hide in. Still not sure though...

I think I may just nix the driftwood in there all-together, because eventually I hope to turn this tank into either a cory cat tank or a betta tank. I love this piece of DW and I don't want it getting icky, haha. I am planning on adding leaves, but I wasn't able to do it yesterday or today because it's been raining, and it's hard to get them while they're wet.

I'll post some pictures of the QT tank tonight...maybe xD
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Old 02-24-2013, 08:57 PM   #257
 
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Also, on seeded media...I was thinking I could just buy a new pack of biomedia (and replace it as I use it), and keep it in the canister filter that I have on the 35 in the compartment for the charcoal (which is normally empty), and when I get fish in the QT, I'll just put that seeded media into the canister. It uses what looks to be the same media. Then I'll put another batch of new media into the canister on my 35, to get seeded. After QT I'd probably chuck the old media, if there were problems with the fish.
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Old 02-24-2013, 09:19 PM   #258
 
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Haha! You forgot to respond to my post, lol! FINE! JUST LEAVE ME HANGING! SEE IF I CARE!!! (I don't) Glad it helped, though!

Sounds like you've got a great plan for keeping the media that you need ready to go :)

With the driftwood, removing it in case of needing to medicate is a possibility, but you'll then have to be sure to keep it in a fishless QT for at least 30 days just on the off-chance that it could be contaminated with whatever illness you're treating for. Simple things like Ich trophozoites can stay safely snuggled down in a piece of driftwood for at least 30 days before hatching and dying from lack of a host - longer if the temps are cool (as they would be if you just dropped it into a bucket). That said, yeah, I've used driftwood in my QT tanks before, luckily I had no issues with those fish, so I never had to deal with that. . .but after researching into it, I'm sticking to plastic and stone unless I'm bringing home a creature that NEEDS driftwood. Even though it isn't real, most fish use driftwood either as a 'hide' or, I think, it just lends them a solid surface that helps them feel safer. *shrugs* I put way too much thought into this, I'm sure - but I do get really nervy about stuff when I bring new fish home. I sincerely HATE stocking, even though I've never really had much of a problem when bringing home new fish, there's always SOMETHING that worries the hell outta me!

Yes. Pictures. >.< I love pretty QT tanks, too!
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Old 02-24-2013, 10:30 PM   #259
 
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Do you think the media would work okay? My main beef with a sponge is the noise, the QT is also in my bedroom, and I know the air pump my mom has running in the living room is super crazy loud.

Would stone work as a replacement? I'm still not sure if I'm going to move the wood or not, but I may just to be on the safe side. I just really want something that they can hide behind/under/in, and no offense but I have a huge bias against fake decorations <.<
The only fish that should be going into this tank are rasboras and loaches, and possibly a few shrimp. I've decided to let the 65 hang out in storage for awhile, because it's gonna be at least a year before I get that baby up and running, and I'll probably be moved out by then. I don't want to have to get it put up and then a few months later tear it down to move it ._____.
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Old 02-25-2013, 01:06 AM   #260
 
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Oh, I do too! I hate plastic... but that being said, there ARE some decent pieces out there that look pretty decent. I ended up getting a really big piece of plastic driftwood for my 20g QT, the 'wood' part was okay, but the fake plastic plants looked horrible! It was easy enough to rip them out and replace them with REAL JavaMoss and Java fern, lol, and it made the whole thing look a lot more natural. My husband couldn't tell. . . :) Same goes for plants. If you get high-quality silk plants, and keep them in the tank mixed with living ones, they can look good.

That aside, yeah! Stone is a great idea, especially for loaches. When I was QTing the Dwarfs, I had no driftwood or plastic anything in that tank, but I did have lots of rock hides and caves, which they really enjoyed. :) If you got a larger piece, it'd work for the rasa to hide behind if they wanted to, but with the plants. . . they probably will feel fairly comfortable right off, I'd think, and not really need it. Considering the stark shop tanks where they're coming from, fish tend to be so happy to be put into a planted QT tank, they forget to be stressed out!

I don't see any reason why your canister media wouldn't work! I think it'll be fine, and you can always add other stuff from your established tank if you think you need it - a handful of sand or a rock or a plant. . . I always keep floating plants because aside from making the fish more comfortable, it works as a backup for any cycle wiggles that could possibly happen when you stock the QT tank. I use duckweed because it's the BEST at absorbing any toxins super fast, grows like a weed, and if I should feel it necessary to take it out and chuck it, well. . . there is always plenty more where that came from! If you need to remove it to medicate, it'll live in a bucket juuuuuuuuust fine for a while. And by a while I mean months on end if necessary! Duckweed is a PITA, but it's really great for situations like this, IMHO!!!

You're doing such a great job, Jen! Don't even sweat it, your QT tank is going to be perfect, and your fish will really enjoy their time there! You'll keep telling them. . . 'just wait 'till you get to your REAL home' :D
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