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#1 ·
Okay so I figured I would start a new journal as I am starting a new tank. I am moving back home to Rockville, MD into the basement of my mothers house...yay! Actually, as soon as I get a job I will be out the door running to get my own place.

Right now I have not yet moved so I have the 75 empty and Neons, Rasboras and the a Bolivian in the 29.

Here is what I am planning and if anyone has any ideas or suggestions please feel free.

29 Gallon Freshwater Planted Community
  • 14-16 Harlequin Rasboras. (8 Current)
  • 8-10 Kuhli Loachs
  • 1 Male Dwarf Gourami (1 Current)
  • 1 Male Bristlenose Pleco (1 Current)

75 Gallon Amazon Planted Tank
  • 40-50 Neon Tetras (12 Current)
  • 20-25 Bronze Cory (4 Current)
  • 5-8 Bolivian Rams (2 Current Males in difff tanks)
  • 1 Male Albino Bristlenose Pleco (1 Current)

I was thinking about this large school of Neons or maybe two schools of 25 but I don't know what other fish. Cardinals?

I could also think about doing two schools of cories.

Here is what the 29 currently looks like. I'm planning on removing the gravel and making is maybe flourite with sand or soil and sand. I need advice and thoughts on this. I will be moving Thursday and setting them up then. Not much time :/

The main idea is to get this tank to have mainly rocks and plants, I am going to need some wood for the bristlenose and hiding spots but I mainly want a mountain side. I can put a cave in the middle.



This picture of the 75 is just me putting the rocks in. I'm moving the big two rocks into the 29 to create that mountain side. I am leaning more towards a heavily planted tank with more wood in it. I think I will need smaller rocks and bigger pieces of wood. I have enough plants though.

 
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#73 ·
Hey! Is that Crypt spiralis to the left one of my babies?!! I hope so. . . I hope SOMETHING I sent to you is thriving, lol! The plants are growing great, but. . . Termie! I KNOW you can take better pictures than that! C'mon, man! I need DETAILS! ;)
 
#75 ·
YAY! Can't wait for clearer shots. And hooray for the Crypts! Mine really love me. I think Crypts are my favorite plants, even though I only have two types - so far. I want more, and have to try my hand at Anubis, too - yours is growing like weeds! Did you ever end up getting your loaches?
 
#76 ·
So Chesh, I just got 10 new Otocinclus for my 29 gallon. Their in the QT right now :D

They look awesome! YAY! I was gonna get the Kuhli Loaches but they didn't look healthy so I was like I don't want to wait and I already have two otos in that tank sooooo I got more otos lol.

I also got a new filter for my betta tank with a bio wheel but as soon as I took it out of the box it was broken so I am going to return it for a new today.

Last night I went to town on my 75. The Dwarf Sag was taking over everywhere and was sending runners into the crypts. I pretty much cleared all the runners out of the tank and made sure the Crypts were getting their nutrients. I think they will grow faster now.

I have two kinds of anubias. If you want any I can always cliip a bit and send it to you :D

SO IF ANYONE WANTS ANY DWARF SAG LET ME KNOW! I have enough to carpet half a 29 gallon available. :D

Picture coming soon...hopefully tonight....hopefully lol.
 
#77 ·
Aww! Ottos are super-cute! Congrats on the new additions! I hope they all make it into the new tank okay - a shoal of 12 will be amazing! :)

I don't blame you for passing on the Kuhli. . . There seems to be something going on with them lately. . . the stripey ones in particular. I've heard several stories of entire batches dying off for no discernible reason - including yours - and a lot of fish shops (around here, anyway) are having trouble getting them in stock. . . whatever it is, it needs to stop! Poor little Kuhli! I need more to get MY shoal up to 12, too!!! I saw some SILVER Kuhli on Aquabid from WetSpot *drool* I want THOSE, too ;)

Bummer about the bio-wheel, hope you got that taken care of. . .

Dwarf Sag is a nice plant, fantastic that yours is doing so well - enough extra to carpet a 29g, eh? Amazing! My Crypt Spirallis are growing like weeds, I'm finding new plants every week! But the DS that you sent me is still just kind of there. . . I'd love to take some Anubias off your hands if you have the lower-light varieties? If you have enough to 'clip' after my wallet rebounds from Christmas we'll talk. :-D I've never had that plant, and have always wanted some, and if you still have extras, I might have another tank (or four) to pop some Dwarf Sag into, too!

In the meantime. . . where'd those pictures that you promised end up? *demands*

Hope you had a wonderful Thanksgiving!
 
#80 ·
You're so QUIET, Term! What's up? I wanted you to sing us a song, or narrate at the very least. You sick? ;)

Tank looks great! Your little ram is getting big. . . for a dwarf, lol. Really weird about the Rasa, but don't you usually keep tons of floaters in that tank? Hope they come around. . .
 
#81 · (Edited)
HAHAHA No it's cuz I was going to put audio over these, it just hasn't processed yet. You get talking after it's clean :) its embarrassing showing these things off when they're ugly!

The 29 usually doesn't have much floater but I put some pennywort in there and their already enjoying it. I'm gonna rescape that tank soon, take that big rock outa there and put it in the 75. Then I will have more sand to put into the 75 as well.

Here le pennywort

 
#85 ·
I just realized I never replied to this thread! Sorry, Term . . . and ROFL for C.F. - you're totally right! Termie and I are photography snobs *giggle* I have to call him out when he posts crappy pictures, cuz' I KNOW he can do better and I want to see the details of such beauty!

Speaking of which. . . TERMIE! Tsk tsk and shame on you! You'd better get that algae scraper and do your thing, boy! I know that your FISH like it, but we really need the front of the glass clean to get a good look ;)

The bristlenose has really taken off on growth since you moved - he's a pretty thing!

In the back right. . .is it a mountain of Riccia? Or moss? Or. . . just a mass of random plantlife? I'm trying to figure it out - I see Cabomba... and maybe a Java Fern. Maybe some Wisteria or WaterSprite. . . and then just a mass of greenness. What IS it?!!! Driving me crazy over here!
 
#86 · (Edited)
Yea I have been quite lazy with taking care of my tanks :( hahah I just did a nice water change on them about 3 days ago.

Here is a zoom of that back right side for you Chesh:


Here is the back Left:


So I have a slight problem I was hoping to get some help on. I have tried to solve it myself but I have not been able to do so.

My Java Ferns and Swords are getting holes in them.


So I put in Flourish Comprehensive about 2x/3x a week and Flourish Excel about 1x/2x a week into the tank just as I always have. NOW the Java Ferns are getting these holes in them...ALL of them....It's really annoying me. I can't get it to grow right.

Also the BIG beautiful sword it starting to get some of that on it too :( I don't know what it is anymore because it can't be lack of light or nutrients because I'm almost ovedosing those. Any ideas?!?!?

Here is the sword:


So chesh, I will be cleaning my tank this week (the glass) and I will get a goooooood picture for you. I will also be moving the otos into the 29 gallon.

I'm also selling my Neons to a friend. I will be getting another schooling fish (larger ones) that are compatible with Discus. I need some good suggestions for this because I can't think of a good one. Anyone?

Requirements:
- Must be an amazon fish
- Must be compatible with Discus, BOlivian Rams and Cory Catfish.

I am getting those Discus :D MUHAHAHA not yet though. Gotta get this tank PERFECT before I introduce them :D

I did some rescaping on the 75 and 29. I moved some more plants to the 29 to give the rasboras cover but they are still only chilling in the left side of the tank. I think they need EVEN MORE cover. I may have to take a large plant into that tank. I'm gonna go grab the camera to take a nice good picture of that tank because its WAY cleaner than the 75 :D

@Canadian - Thank you! In all honesty, that really is a crappy shot. You should see it with a good picture :D Not that its like WOAAA but it's just it does look way better in person than in that picture.
 
#87 ·
Hmm... very strange with the leaves on your plants - are any of your fish nibblers? You do have snails, are you feeding everyone their veggies? With the ferns, I'd have guessed too much light, but that doesn't work for the swords. Usually people blame pinholes on a potassium or possibly a manganese deficiency, but with your fert schedule, that doesn't make sense, plus they don't look yellow. If you've been slacking on water changes, maybe they are lacking some trace elements - lots of the those ride in with the tap water, and you do have soft water now, so less mineral content than what you had at your last house. . . OR (giggle) maybe all of that algae you have growing on the glass is getting the ferts FIRST and not leaving enough for the poor plants ;) Seriously just guessing - I really have no idea! This is a question for one of the plant gurus, but I hope you figure it out, such pretty plants!

For Amazon fish compatible with Discus (you DO realize you're insane, right?), I'm no expert, but what are the temp requirements of Hatchetfish - that would be stunning! I can think of several types of Tetra, too - but I suspect that none of the fish I'd be thinking of off the top of my head would be compatible temperature-wise. . .you might find that to be one of your biggest issues with the discus in community - though I know it's done.

Bolivian rams are okay with somewhat higher temps, but from my understanding a better match temp-wise would be the German Blues, who like things a smidge warmer than the BR. But the GBR are far more sensitive to live than the BRs - of course this also applies to the super sensitive Discus, lol! If you get GBR, make sure you spend the extra money and find a very good breeder - don't get crappy inbred shop fish, they're too often sickly and HITH is an issue with them as well as with the discus.

I'm half asleep and have no idea about any of it - plants, fish, *yawn* but you'll figure it out!

I just wanna know about this new 90 gallon possibility, and these mysterious fish that you are wanting to adopt for it?!
 
#88 ·
Hmm... very strange with the leaves on your plants - are any of your fish nibblers? You do have snails, are you feeding everyone their veggies? With the ferns, I'd have guessed too much light, but that doesn't work for the swords. Usually people blame pinholes on a potassium or possibly a manganese deficiency, but with your fert schedule, that doesn't make sense, plus they don't look yellow. If you've been slacking on water changes, maybe they are lacking some trace elements - lots of the those ride in with the tap water, and you do have soft water now, so less mineral content than what you had at your last house. . . OR (giggle) maybe all of that algae you have growing on the glass is getting the ferts FIRST and not leaving enough for the poor plants ;) Seriously just guessing - I really have no idea! This is a question for one of the plant gurus, but I hope you figure it out, such pretty plants!
These holes aren't from nibllers, you can see the decay on the leaves. :( I wish it were that simple. My fish don't eat the leaves though. Too much light for the ferns?! WHAT!! really?

Yea I was thinking about the algae. I can probably get some cleaning on that tank done today. I'm pretty sure it is the algae too.

For Amazon fish compatible with Discus (you DO realize you're insane, right?), I'm no expert, but what are the temp requirements of Hatchetfish - that would be stunning! I can think of several types of Tetra, too - but I suspect that none of the fish I'd be thinking of off the top of my head would be compatible temperature-wise. . .you might find that to be one of your biggest issues with the discus in community - though I know it's done.
Discus enjoy 79-86F while hatchet fish enjoy 74-82F. While there is some overlap they aren't an ideal match but it is a possibility.

I am also worried about the size, not just temperature. Soo many variables to think about....hmmm...I could always try and do a school of Bolivian Rams.

Bolivian rams are okay with somewhat higher temps, but from my understanding a better match temp-wise would be the German Blues, who like things a smidge warmer than the BR. But the GBR are far more sensitive to live than the BRs - of course this also applies to the super sensitive Discus, lol! If you get GBR, make sure you spend the extra money and find a very good breeder - don't get crappy inbred shop fish, they're too often sickly and HITH is an issue with them as well as with the discus.

I'm half asleep and have no idea about any of it - plants, fish, *yawn* but you'll figure it out!

I just wanna know about this new 90 gallon possibility, and these mysterious fish that you are wanting to adopt for it?!
Well as you stated, there is my main worry with the Bolivians. They are technically compatible with Discus but the temperatures don't even overlap as much as the hatchet fish. I don't want GBRs though lol. They are German!

Well my friends mom has been keeping fish for about 50+ years and they are moving out of the country and can't keep their tank. She has a 90 Gallon tank with a 24" Sailfin Pleco. 4 Rasboras, 1 Clown Pleco, A YoYo Loach, another kind of loach I forgot what kind. a pair of Kribensis and a school of about 8 rummynose tetras.

The big Pleco is about 14 years old, he is beautiful. They have no one to take care of it. If i were to take it I would ofc split the stocking and make it work better. They take good care of the tank too.

I was thinking about riding myself on the 5 gallon tank and taking down the 10....so I keep the 90, 75 and 29 or the 10 gallon running. I'd need to keep a good quarantine tank so that'd be the reason for the 29/10. I might just keep all of them running though LOL!

Thoughts?
 
#89 ·
lol, German... right! Forgot the biotope on that one. Well, still time to research and figure it out :) It'll be fantastic when it's done.

As far as the NEW giant tank is concerned. . . I just want to know where on Earth you're gonna PUT it!!! Personally, having gone from 1 tank all of the way up to 7. . . I've been trying to get BACK down to 1 since I started, only starting wrong has left me with incompatible species and thus - too many tanks! For ME, one big tank filled with my very most favorite fish and set up to my tastes is all I want. I like to focus my time and care, rather than being so divided and constantly falling behind on maintenance due to lack of time. But. . . that's ME! LOADS of people have many large tanks, and love it. YOU are a fishy hoarder ;) We need to get you on that show. . . ;-) I don't see you passing it up, and I'm sure you'll take great care of them when you get them!

Too much light, yeah - JavaFerns are low-light plants, so it IS possible. *some* swords like lower lighting, but the one you have (I think) is in the moderate to bright range, and so should be thriving with the higher lighting. Plus, you've had the same lighting since before you moved, right? So it doesn't *seem* that lighting would be the issue here.

Two things I can think of that *might* have something to do with it - and again, I'm not a pro, but maybe you can look further into these and see if they seem right. . .

1. You have been dosing more ferts since the move, and (as far as I know) running the same lighting. Everything with plants is about finding the right balance. It is possible for a plant to start to fail if the ferts are OVER done, too. Too many nutrients without the correct amount of either Co2 or lighting will give you an odd imbalance in which the plant is working overtime to process and store all of the 'food,' but since one or both of the other factors are limited, it can end up with an overabundance, and this will cause the plant to fail. I *think* that the main culprit with overdosing ferts has to do with too much iron for the plant to process it, but I'm not sure what it looks like when this happens, though - or if it's what is going on here. The other possibility to look into with the ferts is where they overlap. If you give a plant too much of any one specific nutrient, it throws the whole system off balance, so maybe look into where the overlap is between the ferts you're giving. Perhaps it's getting too much of something specifically?

2. The other thing that I'm wondering, again, is about your water. I know it's soft now, but do you have the number on exactly how soft it is? Many of of the trace elements that plants need are supplied by the water, and ferts like Flourish are balanced with the idea in mind that most people are using them in tanks that have harder water (no idea about excel). Hard water = more minerals/trace elements, so these are not included in the otherwise well-balanced Flourish. If your GH is too low, then the plants could be suffering from a lack of calcium, or possibly other elements. If Gh is lower than 5 or 6 dGH, there may not be enough calcium in the water for the plants to form their cell structure correctly, and I *think* they try to correct this by taking in too much iron. Either way, it's not okay. You can fix it by using products like Equilbrium to slowly raise the GH up and add in calcium and magnesium.

But - Termie, you know I have no idea what I'm talking about, I just read too much - I've never had these problems before. THIS LOOKS LIKE A CASE FOR. . . SUPER BYRON!!!! I'm sure he'd know EXACTLY what to do! :-D
 
#91 ·
Chesh, the lights I have on the tanks right now are not the lights I had on the tank when I was living in Salisbury. These are new lights. The only tank that maintained the old lights is the 29 Gallon. Those plants have kind of halted and are not growing anymore.

As for the 75 Gallon the lights on there are brand new. These lights actually allowed the swords to spawn new plants as you saw in the flourishing picture of the tank. I really don't think it is the high light for the sword, although that may be the issue for the Java Fern. I am beginning to lean more towards the algae at this point because the minerals are fine and I have been doing regular water changes as of the past 2 weeks. I'm FINALLY getting back into a rhythm!

Well the thing about the water is that the plants were flourishing as of about a month ago and now they have halted. After I removed the floating plants the algae came in. I REALLY think it is the algae because of this. I removed the canopy because I wanted the plants to get more lights but I also didn't up the fertz when I did that. This is why I think I got algae. I am considering letting the canopy regrow, which it already is, and then getting rid of the algae. Once the algae is cleared I am hoping this will solve my problems.

I'm quite sure I have the SAME water you have. Literally. I think my dGH is at about 8 last I checked...

I cannot raise the dGH, I'm getting discus! I need to maintain the water parameters I have right now and keep the tank clean for them. I just upped my fertilizer dosage to every other day and the excel to 3x a week. I'm hoping this will solve many of the issues I am dealing with. I'm also considering putting more root tabs in the sand.

What do you think?


I've actually done some looking into a discus biotope tank (for the future!). Rummynose tetra (Hemigrammus bleheri) would work as would cardinal tetra (in around the 82F range). I've seen a lot of discus tanks with schools of those two species and I'd like to add them to my future discus tank. As far as the German Blue Ram... they aren't actually from Germany; but they aren't Amazon fish either. They come from the Orinoco River, north of the Amazon basin. But if you're just going for generic south american fishes, they would work.
Well that is wonderful news. I'm going to be getting some Rummynoses with the 90 Gallon tank when I get that so it will be perfect to put in there with the Discus.

I thought Cardinals weren't supposed to be stocked with Discus? Or any of those longer shaped fish like the rummynose? <---I heard this somewhere, forgot where. but I am not too sure of how accurate it is.

I am trying to stick mainly to Amazon fish because I am from Brazil and I kind of already have a Amazon Biotope going.
 
#90 ·
I've actually done some looking into a discus biotope tank (for the future!). Rummynose tetra (Hemigrammus bleheri) would work as would cardinal tetra (in around the 82F range). I've seen a lot of discus tanks with schools of those two species and I'd like to add them to my future discus tank. As far as the German Blue Ram... they aren't actually from Germany; but they aren't Amazon fish either. They come from the Orinoco River, north of the Amazon basin. But if you're just going for generic south american fishes, they would work.
 
#92 ·
You're right, our water probably does come from the same source :) The GH wouldn't be the problem then, those issues are for GH under 5. I agree, it does sound like the problem could be that the algae is hogging the nutrients before the plants can get to it.

Glad you've found a new rhythm on the maintenance! Should only be a matter of time before you've got the Green Devil back in check! Just out of curiosity, what lights ARE you running on that tank now? I seriously need to upgrade my lighting, trying to find an option that won't cost too much is difficult!

I've been meaning to ask you about your root tabs. . . if I recall, you switched from the Seachem brand to the Root Medic capsules? I was curious as to why? Comparing the two, the nutrients are very similar - some things have a bit more or less depending on the brand. I know the RM tabs last longer (I think it was 6 months as opposed to 3?) Just curious as to what you felt made them so much better? I know you've done a lot of research into this. . .Your tanks are so much different from mine - higher light and more ferts, so I don't know if increasing the root tabs is something that would help or harm.

I think I'd try to get the algae under control before giving it more 'food' I usually use one root tab 'shared' between 2 root feeders, but I don't know if you would need more? You'll figure it out. I suspect that just keeping back on a consistent schedule and allowing the canopy to regrow will help out tons! Good luck!!!
 
#93 ·
Yeah I am glad too! I actually moved the ottos into the 29 last night because I felt they weren't eating in the 10 gallon and there is some algae in the 29. They are already doing better. I lost two ottos :( but it's ok, I kind of expect that to happen...sadly enough.

Right now I am running a 48" T5 HO Hood with 2 46" T5 HO Bulbs that run at 56W and 6500K. I also have a 20W 6500K bulb in the back over the moss. Total wattage output is about 124W on the 75 Gallon.

The 29 has 2 23W CFLs at 6500K for a total of 46W on the 29 Gallon.

I do still use Seachems Liquid fertz, although as soon as I finish this bottle I'm switching to RootMedic because of the following reason (I created this chart with another aquarist when we were doing research)

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0At_8CV4ftW-udG1iYW1ud2xTTldOVk1KNE9VTXFUR2c#gid=0

Hope you like it! I'm hoping to finish that table soon so it will show all major brands and all their products.

If you compare the RootMedic products to the other ones, they have more of certain minerals for the type of product. They also have good deals on PlantedTank.net so it ends up being like half the price there.

Yea I do agree with you that changing the root tabs wont solve anything and that the algae will need to be dealt with before any other variables are considered. :)
 
#95 ·
YAY! hahaha glad its being used. I really want to finish it because we only got about half the products on there (although we put the best products up lol).

Yeah I dunno about 6 months lol. I've had mine in there for about 4 months and I replaced mine about 2 weeks ago. Then again....I have been having algae issues so that could have something to do with why that happened.
 
#96 ·
:) Yeah, I do like it! It's nice to be able to see how all of the ferts compare to each-other at a glance, and without actually having them in front of you. Of course. . .I don't *really* understand what it all means, anyway, lol! But either way, can't wait to see it finished! Hmmmm, wonder if those older tabs are still under the sand in there - and if it would matter. I don't see how that would be your problem, though, since the Java doesn't use them :)
 
#97 ·
Well the only way of really noticing how long they last it to measure plan growth. The week I put the tabs in the swords started to flourish. They actually sent the runners because of that. I was also dosing more C02 (Excel) and More Fertz at the time.

Yeah that sheet can be really helpful. It lists all of the chemicals plants use to grow. I got the main list from the products and then I did more research on the 17 minerals plants require to grow (There are 19 listed on that chart)...I forgot why....lol

I'm running low on all my fertz so I plan on finishing this chart within the next week or two before I buy new fertz. :D
 
#102 ·
That would be cool! Fish ornaments! lol oh man...

Yeah only in the 5 gallon right now. I was gonna put it in the 10 but it crashed right after I moved the otos to the 29. I need to make more stuff! AHHH!!

I have two Drift-Glass set ups made that are epoxied together and water safe. I need to put them in a tank and take some pictures.
 
#103 ·
You really do, Termie! I still want some driftglass for my QT tank. . . I think it's ideal. Start making caves and such, too. . . and fish ornaments, lol! It's such a shame that the price of using the studio and getting supplies for glass-blowing is so expensive. It's an amazing artform!
 
#105 ·
No pink for MEEE! Though the purple one is stunning, I really like that one... I'm totally broke for the holidays, anyway, and I HAVE to invest on new lighting for my 55 before anything else. :/ If you can do a smallish fishy ornament I'd buy it from you, though. But my tree is silver and blue, I don't know if you have those colors laying around. Clear works, too. I'd love a hand-made blown glass fish on my tree - as odd as that sounds. Plus, I could keep it up in a window all year around :)

Caves seem like another wonderful idea for the QT tank. I'd really like to set up a permanent 10g QT using glass ornaments. I'd want a matching set, some driftglass, and some drift 'rock' caves, lol. I think I'd want to go with grey or brown, though. Maybe a darker green color mixed with brown - more natural colors. Again, totally broke right now, but if you can come up with an idea for a 10g QT 'set' and let me know how much you'd charge for it, you know this is something I've been interested in for a while. I doubt I'll have any money this time you head to the workshop, but maybe over the summer after I've recovered from Christmas!

Oooooh! Maybe for next year you can make a glass CHRISTMAS TREE ornament. I'd TOTALLY decorate my tank for the holidays ;) The kids would love that, lol! *I'm so weird and random*
 
#106 ·
I have a 48" hood for a 55/75/90 that just needs a new ballast.....Has the bulbs in it still too....

silver and blue hmmmmm....I LIKE! lol

Yeah my QT tank's downfall was lack of cover. I had 3 caves in there but it still felt empty....

grey or brown hmmmm. darker green will look like moss/algae wouldn't it? Yeah my wallet is going to take a beating from Christmas lol

OOOoOoOoO Christmass Tree fish tank ornament! Oh what great ideas you have lol
 
#110 ·
Glad to hear the Otos are doing so much better in the big tank, poor little things, sorry you lost two of 'em. You can try them on lots of different veggies and fruits, as long as it isn't strongly flavored (like peppers) and soft enough for them to nom on (if it isn't, blanch it). See what they like - it should be fun :)
 
#111 ·
The otos I moved are doing good. They have been eating now because there is actually algae in there for them to eat. That was part of the reason why i didn't wait the whole time period of QT to put them in there. I lost two of them :( when I went to move them I found two dead.

Now they are shoaling and seem happy. I see them eating. Been feeding Zuchini and Cucumber. Any other suggestions?

Newly acquired otos should be fed mainly on prepared foods and especially algae. The veggies can come later. This is because veggies really contain very little serious nutrient and otos that arrive nearly starved (the norm) need wholesome food to get back in shape. Algae is ideal, and then use sinking foods. Some green (algae/spirulina/kelp base) but the protein foods too like shrimp pellets, etc.

After the fish are settled, say a couple of months, and eating well and look full, you can use veggies.

Byron.
 
#114 · (Edited)
Thanks Byron! Would Algae pellets work as a prepared food?

This tank has algae in it so they should have some good food. Will the same sinking food I use for my cories and bolivian ram work for the otos?
Yes to both questions. My otos always come down when food is placed in the tank, along with the corys and my male Bolivian. I sound the dinner gong--tap lightly with the plastic spoon I use for feeding on the tank frame at every feeding and the fish quickly learn what this means and will often be out and about before I even get the food down there. I use 4 different sinking foods, alternating daily. One is always a kelp-based disk (algae, spirulina, kelp all work) and the other three are omnivorous based.
 
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#116 ·
Here is a panorama shot of the tank. I KNOW IT IS STILL NOT A GOOD PICTURE CHESH lol

But I'm cleaning my tank today sooooo just wait like 2 -3 hours and I will have a 10+ quality picture of the tank for ya :D



I am really starting to worry about my plants. I reduced my lighting to help with algae...nothing yet.

I'm gonna trim all those dying leaves and do a water change along with a serious cleaning of this tank. After that I'm gonna really keep on it to make sure my plants get back to health.
 
#117 ·
I KNOW IT IS STILL NOT A GOOD PICTURE CHESH lol
Dude, Termie! You make me sound MEAN! I didn't mean it like that, I really didn't! Just. . .your shots are *usually* better, and I was really squinting to see the details! *hangs head* Wasn't trying to be rude, I swear!!! :cry:

I hope you get the algae under control. Been down that road before, stuff can be a PITA to narrow down exactly where the issue is. . . when I had those problems that started with the power out, I eventually just gave up and clipped every offending leaf JUST to get a clean start. Sucked. . . good luck with it, I hope you figure out where the balance is wonky in there.

And. . . umm? You promised a new shot in that last post, and by MY calculations, 2-3 hours has taken somewhere around 4-5 DAYS at this point. ;-) Uh-oh. . . did that sound mean? Totally not trying to sound mean. I'm a NICE girl. . . *cracks whip*

Have a fun weekend! Can't wait for the next update!
 
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