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This is a discussion on 75 Gallon Amazon and 29 Gallon Community within the Freshwater Journals forums, part of the Aquarium Photography category; --> Originally Posted by Chesherca You're so QUIET, Term! What's up? I wanted you to sing us a song, or narrate at the very least. ...

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Old 11-27-2012, 07:28 PM   #81
 
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You're so QUIET, Term! What's up? I wanted you to sing us a song, or narrate at the very least. You sick? ;)

Tank looks great! Your little ram is getting big. . . for a dwarf, lol. Really weird about the Rasa, but don't you usually keep tons of floaters in that tank? Hope they come around. . .
HAHAHA No it's cuz I was going to put audio over these, it just hasn't processed yet. You get talking after it's clean :) its embarrassing showing these things off when they're ugly!

The 29 usually doesn't have much floater but I put some pennywort in there and their already enjoying it. I'm gonna rescape that tank soon, take that big rock outa there and put it in the 75. Then I will have more sand to put into the 75 as well.

Here le pennywort

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Old 11-27-2012, 07:45 PM   #82
 
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and here is a crappy pic of the 75.

btw Chesh, the pics are coming out bad because there is algae on the glass. yeaa....I know....I'm lazy.

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Old 11-27-2012, 08:11 PM   #83
 
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I just took this of the albino bristlenose pleco. He's growing fast! :D

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Old 12-02-2012, 11:23 AM   #84
 
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and here is a crappy pic of the 75.

btw Chesh, the pics are coming out bad because there is algae on the glass. yeaa....I know....I'm lazy.

I think this looks great. I should be so lucky that my camera and photography were so good, and my tank so nice that I could consider this "a crappy pic".
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Old 12-02-2012, 12:12 PM   #85
 
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I just realized I never replied to this thread! Sorry, Term . . . and ROFL for C.F. - you're totally right! Termie and I are photography snobs *giggle* I have to call him out when he posts crappy pictures, cuz' I KNOW he can do better and I want to see the details of such beauty!

Speaking of which. . . TERMIE! Tsk tsk and shame on you! You'd better get that algae scraper and do your thing, boy! I know that your FISH like it, but we really need the front of the glass clean to get a good look ;)

The bristlenose has really taken off on growth since you moved - he's a pretty thing!

In the back right. . .is it a mountain of Riccia? Or moss? Or. . . just a mass of random plantlife? I'm trying to figure it out - I see Cabomba... and maybe a Java Fern. Maybe some Wisteria or WaterSprite. . . and then just a mass of greenness. What IS it?!!! Driving me crazy over here!
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Old 12-02-2012, 05:34 PM   #86
 
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I just realized I never replied to this thread! Sorry, Term . . . and ROFL for C.F. - you're totally right! Termie and I are photography snobs *giggle* I have to call him out when he posts crappy pictures, cuz' I KNOW he can do better and I want to see the details of such beauty!

Speaking of which. . . TERMIE! Tsk tsk and shame on you! You'd better get that algae scraper and do your thing, boy! I know that your FISH like it, but we really need the front of the glass clean to get a good look ;)

The bristlenose has really taken off on growth since you moved - he's a pretty thing!

In the back right. . .is it a mountain of Riccia? Or moss? Or. . . just a mass of random plantlife? I'm trying to figure it out - I see Cabomba... and maybe a Java Fern. Maybe some Wisteria or WaterSprite. . . and then just a mass of greenness. What IS it?!!! Driving me crazy over here!
Yea I have been quite lazy with taking care of my tanks :( hahah I just did a nice water change on them about 3 days ago.

Here is a zoom of that back right side for you Chesh:


Here is the back Left:


So I have a slight problem I was hoping to get some help on. I have tried to solve it myself but I have not been able to do so.

My Java Ferns and Swords are getting holes in them.


So I put in Flourish Comprehensive about 2x/3x a week and Flourish Excel about 1x/2x a week into the tank just as I always have. NOW the Java Ferns are getting these holes in them...ALL of them....It's really annoying me. I can't get it to grow right.

Also the BIG beautiful sword it starting to get some of that on it too :( I don't know what it is anymore because it can't be lack of light or nutrients because I'm almost ovedosing those. Any ideas?!?!?

Here is the sword:


So chesh, I will be cleaning my tank this week (the glass) and I will get a goooooood picture for you. I will also be moving the otos into the 29 gallon.

I'm also selling my Neons to a friend. I will be getting another schooling fish (larger ones) that are compatible with Discus. I need some good suggestions for this because I can't think of a good one. Anyone?

Requirements:
- Must be an amazon fish
- Must be compatible with Discus, BOlivian Rams and Cory Catfish.


I am getting those Discus :D MUHAHAHA not yet though. Gotta get this tank PERFECT before I introduce them :D

I did some rescaping on the 75 and 29. I moved some more plants to the 29 to give the rasboras cover but they are still only chilling in the left side of the tank. I think they need EVEN MORE cover. I may have to take a large plant into that tank. I'm gonna go grab the camera to take a nice good picture of that tank because its WAY cleaner than the 75 :D

@Canadian - Thank you! In all honesty, that really is a crappy shot. You should see it with a good picture :D Not that its like WOAAA but it's just it does look way better in person than in that picture.

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Old 12-03-2012, 10:43 PM   #87
 
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Hmm... very strange with the leaves on your plants - are any of your fish nibblers? You do have snails, are you feeding everyone their veggies? With the ferns, I'd have guessed too much light, but that doesn't work for the swords. Usually people blame pinholes on a potassium or possibly a manganese deficiency, but with your fert schedule, that doesn't make sense, plus they don't look yellow. If you've been slacking on water changes, maybe they are lacking some trace elements - lots of the those ride in with the tap water, and you do have soft water now, so less mineral content than what you had at your last house. . . OR (giggle) maybe all of that algae you have growing on the glass is getting the ferts FIRST and not leaving enough for the poor plants ;) Seriously just guessing - I really have no idea! This is a question for one of the plant gurus, but I hope you figure it out, such pretty plants!

For Amazon fish compatible with Discus (you DO realize you're insane, right?), I'm no expert, but what are the temp requirements of Hatchetfish - that would be stunning! I can think of several types of Tetra, too - but I suspect that none of the fish I'd be thinking of off the top of my head would be compatible temperature-wise. . .you might find that to be one of your biggest issues with the discus in community - though I know it's done.

Bolivian rams are okay with somewhat higher temps, but from my understanding a better match temp-wise would be the German Blues, who like things a smidge warmer than the BR. But the GBR are far more sensitive to live than the BRs - of course this also applies to the super sensitive Discus, lol! If you get GBR, make sure you spend the extra money and find a very good breeder - don't get crappy inbred shop fish, they're too often sickly and HITH is an issue with them as well as with the discus.

I'm half asleep and have no idea about any of it - plants, fish, *yawn* but you'll figure it out!

I just wanna know about this new 90 gallon possibility, and these mysterious fish that you are wanting to adopt for it?!
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Old 12-04-2012, 07:39 AM   #88
 
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Hmm... very strange with the leaves on your plants - are any of your fish nibblers? You do have snails, are you feeding everyone their veggies? With the ferns, I'd have guessed too much light, but that doesn't work for the swords. Usually people blame pinholes on a potassium or possibly a manganese deficiency, but with your fert schedule, that doesn't make sense, plus they don't look yellow. If you've been slacking on water changes, maybe they are lacking some trace elements - lots of the those ride in with the tap water, and you do have soft water now, so less mineral content than what you had at your last house. . . OR (giggle) maybe all of that algae you have growing on the glass is getting the ferts FIRST and not leaving enough for the poor plants ;) Seriously just guessing - I really have no idea! This is a question for one of the plant gurus, but I hope you figure it out, such pretty plants!
These holes aren't from nibllers, you can see the decay on the leaves. :( I wish it were that simple. My fish don't eat the leaves though. Too much light for the ferns?! WHAT!! really?

Yea I was thinking about the algae. I can probably get some cleaning on that tank done today. I'm pretty sure it is the algae too.

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For Amazon fish compatible with Discus (you DO realize you're insane, right?), I'm no expert, but what are the temp requirements of Hatchetfish - that would be stunning! I can think of several types of Tetra, too - but I suspect that none of the fish I'd be thinking of off the top of my head would be compatible temperature-wise. . .you might find that to be one of your biggest issues with the discus in community - though I know it's done.
Discus enjoy 79-86F while hatchet fish enjoy 74-82F. While there is some overlap they aren't an ideal match but it is a possibility.

I am also worried about the size, not just temperature. Soo many variables to think about....hmmm...I could always try and do a school of Bolivian Rams.

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Bolivian rams are okay with somewhat higher temps, but from my understanding a better match temp-wise would be the German Blues, who like things a smidge warmer than the BR. But the GBR are far more sensitive to live than the BRs - of course this also applies to the super sensitive Discus, lol! If you get GBR, make sure you spend the extra money and find a very good breeder - don't get crappy inbred shop fish, they're too often sickly and HITH is an issue with them as well as with the discus.

I'm half asleep and have no idea about any of it - plants, fish, *yawn* but you'll figure it out!

I just wanna know about this new 90 gallon possibility, and these mysterious fish that you are wanting to adopt for it?!
Well as you stated, there is my main worry with the Bolivians. They are technically compatible with Discus but the temperatures don't even overlap as much as the hatchet fish. I don't want GBRs though lol. They are German!

Well my friends mom has been keeping fish for about 50+ years and they are moving out of the country and can't keep their tank. She has a 90 Gallon tank with a 24" Sailfin Pleco. 4 Rasboras, 1 Clown Pleco, A YoYo Loach, another kind of loach I forgot what kind. a pair of Kribensis and a school of about 8 rummynose tetras.

The big Pleco is about 14 years old, he is beautiful. They have no one to take care of it. If i were to take it I would ofc split the stocking and make it work better. They take good care of the tank too.

I was thinking about riding myself on the 5 gallon tank and taking down the 10....so I keep the 90, 75 and 29 or the 10 gallon running. I'd need to keep a good quarantine tank so that'd be the reason for the 29/10. I might just keep all of them running though LOL!

Thoughts?
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Old 12-04-2012, 08:26 AM   #89
 
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lol, German... right! Forgot the biotope on that one. Well, still time to research and figure it out :) It'll be fantastic when it's done.

As far as the NEW giant tank is concerned. . . I just want to know where on Earth you're gonna PUT it!!! Personally, having gone from 1 tank all of the way up to 7. . . I've been trying to get BACK down to 1 since I started, only starting wrong has left me with incompatible species and thus - too many tanks! For ME, one big tank filled with my very most favorite fish and set up to my tastes is all I want. I like to focus my time and care, rather than being so divided and constantly falling behind on maintenance due to lack of time. But. . . that's ME! LOADS of people have many large tanks, and love it. YOU are a fishy hoarder ;) We need to get you on that show. . . I don't see you passing it up, and I'm sure you'll take great care of them when you get them!

Too much light, yeah - JavaFerns are low-light plants, so it IS possible. *some* swords like lower lighting, but the one you have (I think) is in the moderate to bright range, and so should be thriving with the higher lighting. Plus, you've had the same lighting since before you moved, right? So it doesn't *seem* that lighting would be the issue here.

Two things I can think of that *might* have something to do with it - and again, I'm not a pro, but maybe you can look further into these and see if they seem right. . .

1. You have been dosing more ferts since the move, and (as far as I know) running the same lighting. Everything with plants is about finding the right balance. It is possible for a plant to start to fail if the ferts are OVER done, too. Too many nutrients without the correct amount of either Co2 or lighting will give you an odd imbalance in which the plant is working overtime to process and store all of the 'food,' but since one or both of the other factors are limited, it can end up with an overabundance, and this will cause the plant to fail. I *think* that the main culprit with overdosing ferts has to do with too much iron for the plant to process it, but I'm not sure what it looks like when this happens, though - or if it's what is going on here. The other possibility to look into with the ferts is where they overlap. If you give a plant too much of any one specific nutrient, it throws the whole system off balance, so maybe look into where the overlap is between the ferts you're giving. Perhaps it's getting too much of something specifically?

2. The other thing that I'm wondering, again, is about your water. I know it's soft now, but do you have the number on exactly how soft it is? Many of of the trace elements that plants need are supplied by the water, and ferts like Flourish are balanced with the idea in mind that most people are using them in tanks that have harder water (no idea about excel). Hard water = more minerals/trace elements, so these are not included in the otherwise well-balanced Flourish. If your GH is too low, then the plants could be suffering from a lack of calcium, or possibly other elements. If Gh is lower than 5 or 6 dGH, there may not be enough calcium in the water for the plants to form their cell structure correctly, and I *think* they try to correct this by taking in too much iron. Either way, it's not okay. You can fix it by using products like Equilbrium to slowly raise the GH up and add in calcium and magnesium.

But - Termie, you know I have no idea what I'm talking about, I just read too much - I've never had these problems before. THIS LOOKS LIKE A CASE FOR. . . SUPER BYRON!!!! I'm sure he'd know EXACTLY what to do!
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Old 12-04-2012, 02:26 PM   #90
 
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I've actually done some looking into a discus biotope tank (for the future!). Rummynose tetra (Hemigrammus bleheri) would work as would cardinal tetra (in around the 82F range). I've seen a lot of discus tanks with schools of those two species and I'd like to add them to my future discus tank. As far as the German Blue Ram... they aren't actually from Germany; but they aren't Amazon fish either. They come from the Orinoco River, north of the Amazon basin. But if you're just going for generic south american fishes, they would work.
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