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post #11 of 18 Old 02-24-2008, 01:08 PM
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I like the look of the Eco-Complete because it doesn't change the pH. I've also heard REALLY good things about AquariumPlants.com own substrate- it's dark (if you click the picture, you can see more), it's on sale cuz it's new, and they give free shipping. http://www.aquariumplants.com/product_p/ss-1.htm

The Tahitian Moon sand is really pretty- been drooling over it since I first saw it. I have no idea how good it is though, and it does change the pH of the water.
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and the Tahitian Moon sand has no effect on PH,it is an inert substance..don't know where you got that idea,everything I've ever seen on it makes no mention of it raising the PH,it says it has no effect on PH.
I have the Tahitian Moon Sand in one of tanks and it didn't change a thing. The price is rather high,about $20 for a 20 lb bag...fOR THAT YOU MIGHT AS WELL JUST USE Eco,ADA Aquasoil etc..especially if you want live plants..i cant get much to grow in my tank with the moon sand in it..its getting switched out with eco next week-end
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Be careful and do your research about new substrates, as many of them will cause an ammonia spike when added to new tanks. This was a consideration I had to take into account when changing my substrate, I didn't have any other tank for the fish to stay in for too long so I didn't want to add any substrate that would radically change the water parameters. I decided to use turface. It is cheap, looks good, and the plants like it. You have a limited budget and all of the substrates you were looking at would be well over $100 to cover the bottom of the tank well (including shipping). Really, your only options for under 50 dollars are play sand and turface. I would recommend turface.

One other thing, most substrates cannot be cleaned in the same way as gravel. If you stick the syphon down into the substrate it will just get sucked up. Turface is this way, it isn't really a problem, I just kind of swirl the syphon over the top of the substrate to get up the big pieces.

Also, what is your pH out of the tap? Do you add pH-changing chemicals to your water?
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post #13 of 18 Old 02-24-2008, 02:41 PM Thread Starter
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my pH out of the tap apears to be 7 cause without adding chemicals (i havent got any drift wood yet and only 1 plant [silver dollars eat everything]) all my tanks are consistently at pH 7.0 for a 15-20 lb bag of those would cost around 35 dollars including shipping. would 20lbs not be enough? i only cover it in about a 1/4 of an inch do i need to add more?

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post #14 of 18 Old 02-24-2008, 02:55 PM
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Maybe I'm lost but $35 for what substrate and how big of a bag??? How big is the tank also?

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20lbs and its the Eco Complete Cichlid Sand and other various beddings the links up top are to the sie i found them at.

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The cichlid sand will definatly raise your ph so I don't think that's the way to go since you have some fish that like the ph lower. 7 is a happy medium for everyone. I think the cichlid sand holds the ph at 7.8 or something like that. Dr Fosters has it for $20 per 20 lb bag. That would be closer to the price I would expect to pay. $35 seems really high. What size is the tank and are you going to plant it?

BTW..I just changed my substrate last night and put 70lbs in my 55 which gave me 2-3 inches

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1/4 inch is very thin, I would recommend at least one inch if you aren't planning on having plants and 2-3 inches if you are planning on having plants.
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post #18 of 18 Old 02-26-2008, 12:17 AM Thread Starter
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well i will be getting some money in the next week or 2 for this. So i will probably get something like 40 lbs of it.

Ok so no eco complete. what would u recomend thats sandy and easily gotten?

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