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post #1 of 14 Old 02-08-2010, 02:51 PM Thread Starter
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Q: Can Pythons go up stairs?

Let me explain. I am putting a 50g tank in a bedroom on the 2nd floor of my house. The hall outside the bedroom is mezzanine overlooking an open family room & kitchen. So before I get a python, can anyone tell me if this thing will work properly if I run it from my tank, out the bedroom, up over the railing and into the kitchen beside the family room?

Basically, has anyone had success with a python where their sinks are on a different floor than the tank they are trying to clean?
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post #2 of 14 Old 02-08-2010, 03:01 PM
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To drain the tank that's upstairs into a sink downstairs; yes.
Refilling it from downstairs UP will be a diff issue; unless you have some serious hardcore water pressure in Canada...(Most US homes on City water will not have the necessary pressure).

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post #3 of 14 Old 02-08-2010, 03:25 PM
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I guess a python is out of the question for me then My tank is down in the basement and the water source is upstairs. At least carrying 11 gallons worth of buckets of water up and down the steps gives me my excerise for the day. :-\
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post #4 of 14 Old 02-08-2010, 03:54 PM
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To drain the tank that's upstairs into a sink downstairs; yes.
Refilling it from downstairs UP will be a diff issue; unless you have some serious hardcore water pressure in Canada...(Most US homes on City water will not have the necessary pressure).
Really? So, how does water get up to my 4th floor bathroom? I don't have any special pumps or tanks in my home - just a connection to the municipal water supply in the garage at ground level. My thinking is that the pressure at the end of the Python that was just run up one set of stairs would be the same as the pressure from a sink on the same floor, no? What's the difference between the water going up one extra flight through the Python's plastic hose or a copper pipe? Am I missing something?

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post #5 of 14 Old 02-08-2010, 05:57 PM
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It will work fine. If anything, you may need to use the shutoff valve on the hose right near the tank to make sure the syphon isn't too great. Otherwise you'll suck all the gravel right out of the tank and into the sink. As for water preasure, as long as the tank is below the height of the water tower (for city water) the water will flow to the tank(s) fine. To get the 50lbs of water preasure the water tower must be high. For wells, it depends on the strength of the pump. But again, 1 story should not be a problem.
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post #6 of 14 Old 02-08-2010, 08:50 PM
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not taking into consideration friction loss from the water passing through the hose, it only takes ABOUT 10 psi to travel 10 feet vertically, which is the average height of the 2nd story in relation to the first. SO in order for the water to reach the 2nd floor it needs an absolute minimum of 10 psi. the AVERAGE water supply just about anywhere, and again, average, is 50-70 psi, considering that alot of us are on private well systems, which will have less pressure normally than municipal water sources.

short story, wisfish is absolutely correct. as long as you have a way to gate the water flow FROM the tank to the downstairs sink to control the suction.

im not sure if the suction from the python is pure syphon or forced venturi, but tank downstairs and sink upstairs might not work if the venturi cant supply enough suction to overcome the gravity. it would be worth an experiment though :)

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post #7 of 14 Old 02-08-2010, 09:25 PM
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You know I just had a let's say "incidence" earlier refilling my 55 next door to the bathrm.....I'll take back anything I said about pressure & upstairs ....Had I had a 3rd Story on my house earlier I am VERY sure it would have travel there as well....

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post #8 of 14 Old 02-08-2010, 09:41 PM
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I guess a python is out of the question for me then My tank is down in the basement and the water source is upstairs. At least carrying 11 gallons worth of buckets of water up and down the steps gives me my excerise for the day. :-\
Your situation would have me planning out plumbing, cutting a hole in the floor above the tank in the basement and putting pipe down to right above the tank. Open the valve and pow! It's filling.

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post #9 of 14 Old 02-09-2010, 08:26 AM
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LOL. It could work. We have a drop ceiling in the basement. One project at a time though. Right now his new hobby of Beer Brewing takes precendence since my tank is up and running and I have the ability to walk up and down the steps a million times. Maybe he'll consider it when I fall down the steps with 3 gallons of water in my hand
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LOL. It could work. We have a drop ceiling in the basement. One project at a time though. Right now his new hobby of Beer Brewing takes precendence since my tank is up and running and I have the ability to walk up and down the steps a million times. Maybe he'll consider it when I fall down the steps with 3 gallons of water in my hand
Hmmmm... Does he use CO2 in the brewing? I'd be looking for ways to tap into his tanks....

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