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post #201 of 218 Old 01-10-2007, 11:53 PM Thread Starter
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It's part of the filter, I think it's at least partly submerged.
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post #202 of 218 Old 01-10-2007, 11:59 PM
oh ok, thats good. Pm me if you have any problems with ammonia or nitrite after you change your filter cartride. I can help you there. Next time you change your filter cartridge test the water for the next 3-4 days.

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post #203 of 218 Old 01-11-2007, 12:00 AM Thread Starter
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Alright, I'll keep that in mind.
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post #204 of 218 Old 01-11-2007, 01:20 AM
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Blue, did you make a typo?
Dana's tank is not yet cycled, not only 1 wk into the process. She said there were nitrate levels showing in her tap water, which would explain why she is showing low nitrates and they are dropping in the tank as the plants are consuming them.

This is always the hardest part for anyone, because its so tempting to add more fish. Please don't. The readings you have posted thus far tell me that your tank hasn't really begun to cycle yet, and it needs time. I am curious about the test kits you are using? (name brand and type <liquid, strips, dry tabs) Also, I think I am unclear about how often you are doing water changes and how much water at a time? Are you doing any gravel cleaning with the water changes?

As for your stocking, I think the move from neons or cardinals to green fire tetras would be an excellent one. The green fire tetras are a lot sturdier than either neons or cardinals, and better able to defend themselves with those danios if needed. At the same time, they are very peaceful, and very bright and colorful once they've settled in.
I also found another tetra that I had overlooked on my prior lists...
The von rio tetra, aka, flame tetra:
http://images.google.com/imgres?imgu...icial%26sa%3DN

This is not a very good pic, I couldn't find a good pic of them online. When they settle in, the body is a bright olive green and sparkles when the light hits it right, and the back and lower fins are a bright ruby red. This is one of the most colorful of all of the tetras I've seen, while still being sturdy and staying small. These are awesome fish! They mix with the platys, the danios, the otos, the corys, the botia loach, and the green fire tetras.

Mush, your tank sounds like it's on the final swing... almost there, congrats!!! 4 - 6 wks is the average tank for cycling, give or take a bit depending on the individual tank/circumstances.

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post #205 of 218 Old 01-11-2007, 03:07 AM
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Blue, did you make a typo?
Dana's tank is not yet cycled, not only 1 wk into the process. She said there were nitrate levels showing in her tap water, which would explain why she is showing low nitrates and they are dropping in the tank as the plants are consuming them.
No. I didn't realize her tapwater has nitrates. I must have misunderstood that part about the report from the water company. Darn...
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This is always the hardest part for anyone, because its so tempting to add more fish. Please don't. The readings you have posted thus far tell me that your tank hasn't really begun to cycle yet, and it needs time. I am curious about the test kits you are using? (name brand and type <liquid, strips, dry tabs)
She did mention in this thread she is using Freshwater Master Test Kit.
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The von rio tetra, aka, flame tetra:
http://images.google.com/imgres?imgu...icial%26sa%3DN

This is not a very good pic, I couldn't find a good pic of them online. When they settle in, the body is a bright olive green and sparkles when the light hits it right, and the back and lower fins are a bright ruby red. This is one of the most colorful of all of the tetras I've seen, while still being sturdy and staying small. These are awesome fish! They mix with the platys, the danios, the otos, the corys, the botia loach, and the green fire tetras.
Lol..Must have overlooked my thread about red phantoms and flames.

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post #206 of 218 Old 01-11-2007, 09:14 AM Thread Starter
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I haven't had my tap water tested personally. The report I found online was for my town a few years back. So I don't know for sure what the updated report is and exactly what levels are in there.
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post #207 of 218 Old 01-11-2007, 09:20 AM
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I'm also in the middle (beginning?) of cycling a new 28g tank with 7 leopard Danios. I floated two used filters the first couple of days, then added some live plants and two mosquito fish. Next I added a nice planted driftwood that had been in a lfs tank for about a year. I'm hoping that I have plenty of bacteria in there but I still don't have nitrates. Last night when I tested I had 0.25 ammonia (0 nitrites and 0 nitrates) so I changed out about 20% or so of the water. I started my tank on 12-24 so it's been two and a half weeks now.

so it seems like even with established stuff added to the tank it's taking a while.
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so it seems like even with established stuff added to the tank it's taking a while.
Yes, even with established media involved, it will still "take a while" to cycle. There are a few important things to note about cycling any tank:

If there is any chlorine present (which can happen if someone rinses stuff under the tap water, or forgets to add water conditioner), the chlorine will destroy/kill any current bacteria.

The bacteria involved are of different types, and not ALL of them eat ammonia. One type feeds on ammonia, another on nitrites. The process of breakdown thus, goes something like this:

Ammonia added/present, bacteria feeds on it, the waste product of the bacteria is then nitrite. Another bacteria then grows and feeds on the nitrites, and it's waste product is nitrates.

The bacteria needs time to feed on the ammonia to produce the waste product of nitrite, and enough of that has to happen before it will appear visible on a test kit. During the beginning phase of ammonia breakdown, the nitrite feeding bacteria colony will reduce because of lack of food, thus it will also need time to build back up.

Also, the bacteria culture going into the new tank needs time to populate enough and take hold to manage to feed on all of the ammonia present. This is where patience is needed more than anything else.

Some tanks will cycle faster than others, there are many many factors involved. Each tank responds as an individual, just as in people, twins still have their differences... no to are EXACTLY alike in every way.

I hope this helps to simplify the process a little more for anyone who has wondered or been struggling to understand it.

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post #209 of 218 Old 01-11-2007, 08:52 PM
Ok ive decided not to get cories since i have to many doubts. I am changing my stocking scheme to this

7 zebra danios
6 ghost shrimp
3 red coral platies, 2 females 1 male or 3 males
6 lemon tetras or another type of tetra

It is a 20 gallon high tank with double the filtration
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post #210 of 218 Old 01-12-2007, 12:09 AM
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mush, you may want to watch lemon tetras with danios. The lemons tend to stress easy which usually causes ick. They're one of the more sensitive of the tetras. Is it the color or shape that you like so much about them? There are so many options available...

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