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Old 01-08-2007, 09:42 PM   #131
 
Ahhh, I figured they would be in the same family. So they're like miniatures almost? I looked into some of them tonight:)
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Old 01-08-2007, 09:45 PM   #132
 
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Ahhh, I figured they would be in the same family. So they're like miniatures almost? I looked into some of them tonight:)
They do.:) Only problem is they're sensitive to water quality so you'll need to ensure your water parameters are stable. No detectable ammonia and nitrites and pH swings(rarely happens unless you are fiddling with the pH or have low KH).
They're excellent at consuming algae though.:)
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Old 01-08-2007, 10:04 PM   #133
 
hey blue, since your here, i need to ask you a question. I have 4 ghost shrimp and 5 zebra danios. When my tank is done cycling i would love to get some freshwater clams to eat my nitrates but im not sure if it would be good in my tank. The ph is 7.6-7.8, its a 20 gallon high tank with standard non planted aquarium gravel.

Also i have a think layer of white slime covering the surface area of my tank, the glass is covered with it and my ornamants are slimy. It is white but a think layer. It is hard to see unless you put a light up to it. Is this a type of algae or something?
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Old 01-08-2007, 10:17 PM   #134
 
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Also i have a think layer of white slime covering the surface area of my tank, the glass is covered with it and my ornamants are slimy. It is white but a think layer. It is hard to see unless you put a light up to it. Is this a type of algae or something?
Sounds like you may have been overfeeding. A good surface agitation should get rid off the slime on the surface. I've had it before but only on the surface and the glass. I just brushed off the slime when it's stuck to the glass.
Not an algae in my opinion.:)
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Old 01-08-2007, 10:20 PM   #135
 
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hey blue, since your here, i need to ask you a question. I have 4 ghost shrimp and 5 zebra danios. When my tank is done cycling i would love to get some freshwater clams to eat my nitrates but im not sure if it would be good in my tank. The ph is 7.6-7.8, its a 20 gallon high tank with standard non planted aquarium gravel.
I've never kept clams so I can't comment on it.
Here's the link about clams though.:)
http://www.thekrib.com/Fish/clams.html
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Old 01-09-2007, 12:12 AM   #136
 
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First let me say that I've kept the freshwater clams, and that is very difficult to do. They don't eat nitrates, they are a filter feeder, so garbage and algae in the water are their food source. They also eat A LOT. The longest I was ever able to keep one alive was 2 yrs, and that was such a challenge.

Clams will need a sand substrate because they need to be able to bury down into it and room enough to move around. I have found that if the tank is large enough (55 gal or more), you can use a tub of sand on one end of the tank, but it's difficult to keep clean.

High nitrates will kill clams fast, as will any ammonia, or nitrite, or pH fluctuations. When a clam dies in the tank, it pollutes the water horribly and ammonia levels tend to spike very high, which tends to kill a lot of fish.
I really don't suggest keeping clams in a community tank... if you want to venture into clams, maybe try offering a smaller tank to just them, learn enough about them, and then consider keeping them with fish.

As for Dana's comments, and Blue's, too...
I'd avoid the threadfin rainbows because the danios would likely chew them to bits quickly.

Neon dwarf rainbows are a definite possiblity, and the list you came up with was a pretty good one. Just remember not to choose too many fish... overstocking will cause every problem you can imagine and then some.

The pristella tetras are nice, very peaceful, but get a little larger than most of the others you have mentioned so far. They need peaceful tankmates, and are prone to ick from stress. With the danios in the tank, I'd shy away from the pristellas.

As for plecos, I'd say choose 1 for that size of a tank. Food supply and territory will say a lot, and the smaller species that have been mentioned will each eat a lot.

Now, to approach the differences between corys & plecos:
The easy way to distinguish between the two is their function in the tank... pleco = algae eater and cory = bottom feeder. This will not apply with ALL plecos, as some will eat wood, but the funtion in the tank is different, and it is safe to keep both so long as everyone is fed properly and the tank is not overstocked or crowded. Do not rely on a cory cat to eat algae, they won't. Corys need "meaty" foods, such as black worms, tubifex worms, and various others, and they will also eat flake food if your other fish miss it.

For loaches, that's fine if they don't interest you, there are plenty of other people to love them. You mentioned you didn't see any that interested you, so let me just share my favorite with you, see if that peaks any interest?
botia angelicus
http://www.aquariumfish.net/images_0...licus_w240.jpg

With kuhli loaches, be sure the grave is fine grade gravel, as they spend most of their time burried in it. If the gravel is too coarse, it can cause damage to their bodies. Loaches are scaleless, so any species will require really good water quality all the time. They are affected quickly by ammonia, nitrite, and nitrate levels.
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Old 01-09-2007, 03:44 PM   #137
 
I don't want to overstock my tank. I'm just trying to figure out which fish I want in this tank, and what would be ideal.
I think I'm crossing off the scarlet badis this time around. Definately something I will keep my eye on though for future or additional tanks.

I do want to go with ghost shrimp. How many would I choose? Would 4 be too much? What about 2?

Thanks for all the info and also the distinction between the cory and pleco! Very helpful:)

Yes the botia angelicus sparked interest!

If I did choose a loach, particularly the botia, would there be a point to having a cory cat? Should I pick one or the other? I'd like maybe 2 small plecos(pit bull, and bulldog). I guess I really just need to figure out the bottom feeder and algea eater scheme and what would be reasonable.
I still have some research to do and more proposed schemes to come up with. Every day I can learn more. If I start off with ideas, I can gradually knock off more that wouldn't seem reasonable for this tank.
I'm starting to think about keeping a list of those I really want, but wouldn't be idea for this tank....so that maybe down the line I can have 2 tanks and the best of both worlds:)

Also I forgot to add something. I don't know if my gravel is fine enough for the kuhlii. Would that mean it wouldn't be idea to have the botia either?
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Old 01-09-2007, 03:54 PM   #138
 
You can fit many ghost shrimp in their, possibly about 8 as long as you slow stock. I have 4 in my 20 gallon tank atm and there fine. There very small, measuring up to about .75-1 inch length.
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Old 01-09-2007, 04:00 PM   #139
 
What do you mean by slow stock? Should I add in maybe 2 initially then gradually work my way up to 4 or 6?
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Old 01-09-2007, 04:08 PM   #140
 
yeah, like once every week add 2 shrimp etc
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