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pH adjusters... do they really work?
Old 05-15-2011, 02:16 PM   #11
 
pH isn't really important. pH adjusters work just a well as pouring any acid or base into your tank.... so I would think of the consequences before doing so.
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Old 05-15-2011, 08:21 PM   #12
 
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pH isn't really important.
um, im pretty sure pH is important, because some fish cant live in certain pH (i.e. too high to too low), and all fish are more comfortable in certain pH ranges depending on the species. so if my fish would be more comfortable, healthier and live a longer life in a certain range, that is important to me.

i know that using pH adjusters can do more harm than good, especially if you have to use a bunch of chemicals to do it, which is why in the comments i was discussing more natural ways of doing it.
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Old 05-16-2011, 08:13 PM   #13
 
You can worry about pH if your tap is above 8.0 or below 6.5, other then that IMO it is unimportant. Usually online pH recommendations are taken from the wild habitat of the fish species and really has no bearing on tank raised fish. What fish need is a STABLE pH, that is important. Most can be acclimated from one pH to another just fine as long as it is stable. pH adjusters usually do more harm then good by creating a fluctuating pH. A fish would be happier at a pH outside the 'recommended' range then in a pH that keeps fluctuating in and out...
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Old 05-16-2011, 09:40 PM   #14
 
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oh ok, thanks for the clarification. :) hmm.... so do oyu think something natural would create too much fluctuation? like almond leaves or driftwood, as someone suggested to me? i think that if i can get it closer to their preferred range it would be better, because it would make sense that they wouldnt live as long if their bodies had to work harder to adjust to a pH they arnt used to. so would natural be a good way to go?

edit: also, i have a suspicion that my pH is over 8.0, because i have used the pH down numerous times and it is still reading over 7.6, which is as high as my test goes. thats the only reason im even worried about it really. with how many times ive used it the pH should be in the high 6.0s or low 7.0s i think... but it just wont budge.

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Old 05-17-2011, 03:36 AM   #15
 
you should be fine. dont worry bout pH too much. if it makes you happy to find a pH around the fish's natural habitat then add the leaves :). dont worry bout messing around it too much. worry more about the water quality than pH. good quality assures better fish. pH is there to keep certain bacteria alive and others not. what pH affects the most is which bacteria can survive a different pH. scaled fish (bettas) are better at resisting water quality than those of scale-less fish (cories, catfish). as for your invertebrates. Ghost shrimps are cheap and very hardy, as long as your quality of water is low in ammonia/nitrates your shrimps should do exceptionally well.. expecially with the higher pH since its more basic, shrimps will be able to build thier exoskeleton easier. My experience/experiments with ghost shrimps are thriving well. From fresh water to brackish and even in saltwater they survive. I have notice that the shrimps' color comes out more in a higher salinity. so dont worry bout adding a couple ghosties
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Old 05-17-2011, 04:17 PM   #16
 
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oh ok, thanks for the clarification. :) hmm.... so do oyu think something natural would create too much fluctuation? like almond leaves or driftwood, as someone suggested to me? i think that if i can get it closer to their preferred range it would be better, because it would make sense that they wouldnt live as long if their bodies had to work harder to adjust to a pH they arnt used to. so would natural be a good way to go?

edit: also, i have a suspicion that my pH is over 8.0, because i have used the pH down numerous times and it is still reading over 7.6, which is as high as my test goes. thats the only reason im even worried about it really. with how many times ive used it the pH should be in the high 6.0s or low 7.0s i think... but it just wont budge.

Thing is your betta may have never even seen a natural pH.... you don't know what pH it was raised in at the farms. So really 'natual' pH is kinda hit and miss... is it natural if your fish has never seen it?
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Old 05-17-2011, 09:30 PM   #17
 
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is it natural if your fish has never seen it?
....wow good point. i never even thought of that. i bought the ones i have at petco, so i doubt they have ever seen natural water.... thanks :) i might get the leaves anyway, just because ive heard they like them, but it is nice to know they arnt a necessity
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