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Just made a major upgrade from 20g to 135g, help pls!

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Just made a major upgrade from 20g to 135g, help pls!
Old 05-25-2008, 10:51 AM   #51
 
The Magnum 360 is new and is improved. The 350 has been a standard for eons. The 360 is a step up, but I don't know much about replacement parts and accessories there are available. I don't know if the price difference is justified when one compares the performance of the two. I like both of them. But, if on a budget, I would pick the 350.
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Old 05-25-2008, 01:39 PM   #52
 
Thanks herefishy.
Back to ugf, is it ok to just have 2 inlet that way i can put the 2 inlet tubes on the far end of the tank otherwise i assume there will be 4 inlet tubes on the inside of the tank and i feel that is very unsightly.
Or can we replace the ugf with other additional filter?
thanks
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Old 05-25-2008, 02:18 PM   #53
 
I would be concerned that the flow would not be even and lacking toward the middle. I have never tried the system in the configuration you are suggesting, so I really couldn't say. If I were going to use only two power heads I would try to make sure that the placement of the was such that all areas of the ugf would receive equal water flow.

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note: xx=1'+/- P=powerhead location

As far as being able to see the lift tubes, they can be hidden by the rockwork.
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Old 05-25-2008, 10:58 PM   #54
 
I know you are a believer in ugf but if i choose not to use one are there and subsitutes? Would it help if i add more filter?
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Old 05-25-2008, 11:12 PM   #55
 
What about rotating power head to lose those dead spots?
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Old 05-26-2008, 12:28 AM   #56
 
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What about rotating power head to lose those dead spots?
I don't understand. With the Marineland power filters, with the reverse flow adapters, one can make "power sponge filters".

However, you will need to be careful when designing your filtration system. The goal is getting the maximum without breaking the bank or compromising total filtration. The undergravel plate utilizes the largest area in your tank, the substrate. Foregoing its use would to be counter productive by not taking advantage of your largest resource. Also not using a reverse flow system with a ugf increases your maintenance with more frequent gravel sweeps.

The choice is yours, of course, but, if it were me, that would be one of the last things I'd compromise.
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Old 05-26-2008, 01:32 AM   #57
 
Got it!
Is only those inlet tubes that i think is very unsightly but than again if i really want the ideal filtration system i might have to put up with it or think of something like plants and decorations to cover it huh?
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Old 05-26-2008, 04:53 AM   #58
 
'zactly.
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Old 05-26-2008, 02:03 PM   #59
 
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I don't understand. With the Marineland power filters, with the reverse flow adapters, one can make "power sponge filters".
Wait a sec...don't you want the water getting sucked through the sponge? I would think you would use the regular "suck" setting on a powerhead rather than using reverse flow for a power sponge filter. I only comment because I have a sand-bottomed tank that I planned on making some of these for and want to make sure I do it right.
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Old 05-26-2008, 03:00 PM   #60
 
The reverse flow adapter kit, standard with the Marineland 660r (r=reverse flow), has the pieces needed to make a power sponge filter. The kit is also available if one wants to use one of the other Marineland powerheads. I have used the kit, purchased separately, on the Marineland 1140 powerheads in many of my larger tanks. The sponge filter attaches to the input side of the power head. There is an adapter that allows for connection on the lift tubes of the filter plates. The powerheads also come with two optional type of devices that secure it to the tank. One being a hang-on and the other a suction cup mount. I am using both in different tanks an they seem to work equally well.
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