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post #1 of 20 Old 04-01-2013, 10:37 AM Thread Starter
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Grinding Marineland Bio-Wheel

My marineland has started grinding last night. I checked the magnetic components to make sure they're all fitted correctly. Everything looks in place yet it still grinds!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lMia...e_gdata_player

Sorry for the high pitched noise. Idk why my phone does that.

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post #2 of 20 Old 04-01-2013, 10:42 AM
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Sounds like there's some sand or something in the motor. Did you try cleaning the impeller and motor?

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post #3 of 20 Old 04-01-2013, 10:45 AM
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sounds to me like a gas motor idling.


check to see if something is rubbing or a shaft bent.

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have maintained FW systems for up to 9 years with descendants from original fish and marine aquariums for up to 8 years.

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post #4 of 20 Old 04-01-2013, 03:20 PM Thread Starter
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Sounds like there's some sand or something in the motor. Did you try cleaning the impeller and motor?
Ive felt arund in there. Nothing but slime.


And this isnt a motor idling. Ive had this filter running for a while and its been very quiet.

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post #5 of 20 Old 04-01-2013, 03:25 PM
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Things that can foul the motor can be quite small. Cleaning with Q-tips will grab most such stuff.

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post #6 of 20 Old 04-01-2013, 08:20 PM
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i have used and still use the same type and make of filters, follw jaysee's advice. the q tip method works wonders along with puolling the impeller out and cleaning i do this once a month and yet have a marineland filter take a crap on me.
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post #7 of 20 Old 04-02-2013, 05:06 PM Thread Starter
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Well, as much as I didn't want to, I took apart the whole filter and rinsed everything but my cycled media(sponges and ceramics. I saw SOME sand in the pockets where the medias go into. Didn't do any scrubbing, just rinsing. After all that, it made LOUDER grinding! I had to blare my TV to hear my shows.

Frustrated, I did some googling, I found most people saying the rubber inserts wear out and the impeller will move deeper into the motor, creating that grinding noise. Some people have luck lifting the intake up a bit. But on the bigger filters, the magnetic component is too strong and pulls the intake right back down.

It worked for me, but like I read; the magnet pulled it right back down. I hope I didn't kill the cycle I had! And turns out I maybe making a bigger canister filter than I thought I would be. If the grinding keeps up, I'll be chucking that darned thing.

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post #8 of 20 Old 04-02-2013, 05:54 PM
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mine will start to make a grind or buzz when crud gets trapped around the steel shaft. and everytime and yes i mean EVERYTIME i take the filter apart there is stringy crud around the impeller that has to be cut away. afterwords my flow and quietness of the filter improves. p.s for even more quiet operation remove the bio wheels.
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post #9 of 20 Old 04-02-2013, 06:12 PM Thread Starter
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I don't care about minor noise. But grinding just drives me up the walls. The same way silverware scratching against plates and nails on a chalk board.

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I don't care about minor noise. But grinding just drives me up the walls. The same way silverware scratching against plates and nails on a chalk board.
I couldn't agree more. I have never looked back from converting all my tanks to canisters - finally I had peace and quiet.

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