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post #11 of 17 Old 12-22-2011, 08:46 AM
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The intake strainer on the AquaClears is way too small for the flow they have. I have seen apple snails sucked out of their shells when they reached the intake. I have seen healthy fish sucked to and pulled through the strainer. It is unbelievable that Hagen makes the AquaClears which have the worst intake strainers I have ever seen and Fluval canisters which have the best I have ever seen. They require prefilters IME and and Hagen doesn't have anything that fits them well. Prefilters are just an unnecessary additional piece of equipment to clean.
Not if you got small fish, and shrimp.

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post #12 of 17 Old 12-22-2011, 09:07 AM
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Not what? Small fish and shrimp can definitely be sucked in by an AC.

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post #13 of 17 Old 12-22-2011, 09:16 AM
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Not what? Small fish and shrimp can definitely be sucked in by an AC.
Prefilter's being unnecessary, My bad.
My shrimps are all over prefilter's ,foraging.

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post #14 of 17 Old 12-22-2011, 09:40 AM
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I said IME prefilters are needed with AquaClears.

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post #15 of 17 Old 12-22-2011, 10:45 AM
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I said IME prefilters are needed with AquaClears.
Well I have two running AC70 filters. One is a dedicated Seachem Matrix only bio-filter that uses a Fluval sponge pre-filter (which costs about a buck and fits over the inlet tube just fine). The other just uses the inlet tube outta the box and I've never seen a problem even with small fish, including neon tetras. Of course, it would be a problem with small fry, but so would almost any standard inlet strainer. I have to admit that both of my filters are set for minimum flow/maximum re-filtration and I'm sure that's a factor in this discussion.
When you think of it, a very fine inlet strainer is a double edged sword. As much as it protects drawing in tiny creatures, it also prevents fish/plant detritus from entering the filter, serving only to quickly plug the inlet.

Even still, if the complaint is resolved with a dollar pre-filter sponge or a piece of old panty hose the Mrs. (I'm hoping not yours) will never miss, how much of a valid complaint is it really?

I've also heard some complaints that the return flow from the AC filters is too great. A 'problem' I solved by making a baffle from an empty water bottle that cost nothing.


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The AC70 has lower flow than the AC110, especially when you turn them down all the way. The problem is the sizes of the holes in the intake strainer, is the overall size of intake strainer. Compare them to the Fluval canister intakes and you see how much larger those are, the flow is spread out a lot better. You are using a prefilter. I don't want to spend my money on a good filter just to have to make modifications to it (no matter how cheap) to make it usable. I also should not have to go in to the tank to clean an ugly prefilter because of their bad design.

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