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Old 06-18-2008, 01:44 PM   #21
 
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Modern Penguins (150's and such) are set up to take two filter cartridges (the blue felt on frames with carbon behind it) in each compartment. This filter only has a single slot for a these cartridges in each compartment. At the rear of each compartment is a removable black plastic basket.[/list]
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Old 06-19-2008, 06:16 AM   #22
 
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Very nice upgrade. Then everything we have said on this thread applies, because the 300 and the Emperor have the same basic filtration design.
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Old 06-19-2008, 06:46 AM   #23
 
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In the interest of perhaps more than a few dollars worth of fish, I might be tempted to purchase a new filter (either model) and run it in tank with used one so that bacteria could colonize both. Then after tank had matured or cycled I would remove the older one to keep for a spare.
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Old 06-19-2008, 07:29 AM   #24
 
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The whole reason I bought the set up off of craigslist is specifically because I can't afford to buy a new one. I do have a back up filter, a Tetra Whisper one of the same vintage as the Penguin. Both filters have all their parts, don't leak, and pump water just fine.
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Old 06-19-2008, 07:32 AM   #25
 
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I understand your predicament. Perhaps as finances permit? :)
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Old 06-19-2008, 07:34 AM   #26
 
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We'll see. I really have no problem with the filter unless it stops functioning. If that happens the Tetra goes in and I'll start shopping for a new one. So long as the pump keeps running on the Penguin I really don't see any value in buying a brand new filter to replace one that works just fine.
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Old 06-19-2008, 07:44 AM   #27
 
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I believe it's just me and I apologize. I would not be able to leave for work each day wondering if filter had another two years in it or two hours. I would feel much better with new one. But hey! whose to say new one couldn"t shoot craps as well. I fear my discus have put another ten years on me. They almost have ME trained!.
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Old 06-19-2008, 08:04 AM   #28
 
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Well let me ask you this, if the filter does crap out on me how long will it take for the tank to reach a dangerous state? I don't think it'll happen in 8 hours. Then again I have no real experience with it.

If the worst happens while I'm at work my wife gives me a call and I stop by petsmart on the way home to buy media for the power filter. She tosses the biowheels in the tank to keep the colonies alive and when I get home I stuff the old filter cartridges from the bio into the power filter and get going. It won't be pretty but it'll keep my fish alive until I get a replacement and the colonies grow into the power filter's media.

Ideally I'd prefer to have a brand new filter, there's an element of risk here because I have no idea what happened to these things before I got them. I just think the risk is manageable right now since I have a second full sized filter to fall back on if I have to. Believe me, if I didn't have the second filter I'd be replacing the Penguin as soon as I had the cash saved up.
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Old 06-19-2008, 08:34 AM   #29
 
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:) ahh, You are one up on me. I haven't a wife to call me or save the biowheels. Fish would probably be ok for eight hours but I really couldn't say. Knock on wood, I haven't had to address that particular scenario.
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Old 06-19-2008, 08:54 AM   #30
 
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I'm thinking of putting ceramic rings into those baskets the filter has. Looking at the size of the baskets and the size of the power filter I figure I can put enough rings in the baskets to be half of what I'd need for the power filter. So if the bio wheel craps out I'm not starting over with the filter, it'll start off about half way mature. Tossing the bio wheels into the water is just on the off chance I can get the Penguin working again.

I'm pretty cognizant of the fact that this filter is an unknown quantity and I've given what I'd do if it craps out some thought.
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