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post #11 of 21 Old 01-22-2014, 10:20 AM
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I love my Tahitian Moon Sand.. Never had any problems. It's clean enough that I don't even rinse it and the water is barely cloudy for only a few hours. It's smooth and to the touch, and has no impact on my water parameters.

The only bad part is the cost.


I also have MTS in my tank and swords.
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post #12 of 21 Old 01-22-2014, 10:31 AM
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Black substrate?

I had to wash mine as well as any other sand - very thoroughly.
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post #13 of 21 Old 01-22-2014, 11:10 AM
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20/40 grit (<=== that's important, right there) Northern Tool and Die Black Diamond Sand Blasting Abrasive

Black Diamond 20-40 Blasting Media, 50 lb. - Tractor Supply Co.


Dry, it's sharp and angular. This causes some people that have never used it to mistrust it. Wet, something changes... fish safe, barbel safe, bottom dweller safe, loach safe, plant safe. Works with minimal rinsing.


I raise sand chewing Kribs in it. They move it around. They rub their bodies on it. They eat it. No deaths or injuries.

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post #14 of 21 Old 01-22-2014, 11:53 AM
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I'm considering upgrading my 50 gallon aquarium to a 75 gallon aquarium. Currently I have black eco complete substrate. I was doing some tests on my water and I noticed that the dGH was 15 in my aquarium while it was 12 from the tap, and I had just done a water change a few days ago. Anyways, I feel like the eco complete could be raising my hardness? So I'm considering using something else when I upgrade. What do you all use as black substrates? I want to keep plants as well. Thanks :)

for a black supstrate some recommend john deere landscaping turfface or something like that.

For a red substrate I use pro choice pc select.


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maintain Fw and marine system with a strong emphasis on balanced, stabilized system that as much as possible are self substaning.

have maintained FW systems for up to 9 years with descendants from original fish and marine aquariums for up to 8 years.

With no water changes, untreated tap water, inexpensive lighting by first starting the tank with live plants (FW) or macro algae( marine)

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post #15 of 21 Old 01-22-2014, 02:22 PM
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turface i would also recommend, ... maybe not the colored stuff, ... it's made from ... i forget the mineral (baked), same mineral/clay in clumping cat litter actually, baked it no longer swells, but expected to still have a very high CEC (good for retaining nutrients)
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post #16 of 21 Old 01-23-2014, 02:40 AM Thread Starter
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Thanks for all the advice guys! I've started school so I've been stressfully busy and haven't had a chance to reply. The TMS is sounding nice. It looked so fine at the store but I suppose it works. I just wanted to make sure the plant roots can breathe and such and the waste that accumulates on top isn't too unsightly.

So, the regular TMS I wouldn't be able to get Cories with? I don't have any plans to get them but in case I ever want any kind of bottom dwelling fish I'd like to get something safe. The regular is about 10$ cheaper per 20 pounds. :/

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post #17 of 21 Old 01-23-2014, 07:39 AM
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I've only seen TMD Super Naturals. That's what my LFS stocks and what my local Petsmart stocks. I've had no problems with plants, you just do want to make sure to stir it up a bit from time to time.

I'm not sure if the regular stuff would be cory safe or not since I haven't used it myself. Cories will be fine with a fine gravel instead of sand, as long as it isn't sharp
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post #18 of 21 Old 01-23-2014, 07:45 AM
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I too have only seen the super naturals.
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125 - BGK, chanchito cichlid, pictus cats, silver dollars, palmas bichir
125 - cichlids (severums, bolivian rams, chocolate), rainbows ( turquoise, red), loaches (angelicus, zebra, kuhli and horseface), plecos (BN, RL and clown), denison barbs, tiretrack eel, pearl gouramis, betta
90 - Congo tetras, african knife, upside down cats, spotted ctenopoma, kribensis, delhezzi bichir
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post #19 of 21 Old 01-23-2014, 09:30 AM
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we have the tms instant aquarium and the super naturals in my town.
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post #20 of 21 Old 01-23-2014, 02:18 PM Thread Starter
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The instant aquarium is the one I'm talking about. 16$ vs 25$.

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