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Old 02-17-2013, 08:08 PM   #171
 
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Hey, new page already. LOL If you missed my last post, it's back there. ^^;

It's not very good, but this is my newbie. He's shy and didn't appreciate me being near, ESPECIALLY with a camera, so I turned out the lights for the day after this. lol He did have it rough, can't blame him. I set him on the table while I put some stuff in my grandma's betta tank and then carried all the stuff up stairs....before that though, my grandma's jerk cat snuck up and put his claws in the bag, so unfortunately I didn't get to acclimate him. >< I hope he'll be ok, I didn't have anything to put him in!



I've got an even worse one of the new molly. He likes to stay infront of the filter so I can't get any good ones of him, and he flares at me when I go near. LOL Poor things, they don't like the newness just yet, they'll be ok soon. ^^; They're both sticking together pretty close, so that's a good thing I guess.

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Old 02-17-2013, 09:17 PM   #172
 
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Awww! Congrats on the new additions! Very pretty fish - I miss that lil' Molly I had in the Kindy tank *sigh* he reminded me of Dennis the Menace - such a little troublemaker! Wow... I don't believe people say it's okay to put those gourami in a 20g at full growth. . . well. . . I *guess* if it was a 20 long. . . maybe. But still! I'd be iffy about putting him in with Capone, too - though Capone does seem to be sweet for his type. It could work :) I love Gourami - all Gourami! I can't wait until I upgrade to the 125 and can get my shoal of Pearls to finish off that community. Just can. Not. Wait!!!!

Wow!!! So nice that your Apples are breeding, and so sad that they're getting eaten! *bangshead* I'm tellin' you, girl - you're the underwater baby QUEEN over there! Babies, babies EVERYWHERE! I can't wait until you get into fish other than livebearers. . . ESPECIALLY if you get into gourami or betta or cichilds - one of the fish types that care for their eggs/young. You're going to love it, I just know it >.<

Y'know. . . I've managed thus far to avoid getting pondsnails in my tanks. Except the Kindy tank - oddly enough, they were there before I got there, and of course the little brats managed to survive the tank break-down and substrate change. . . I'm not even sure how they got there originally, as they had no live plants *scratches head*

Anyway... I'm glad you've got some newbies, and hope that all is well with them... Lord knows you've had enough sadness in those tanks lately. Time for some HAPPY!!!!
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Old 02-17-2013, 09:36 PM   #173
 
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Hm, well, I could send you one or two assassin snails if you'd pay for shipping. We know I'm broke after all the lovely fun. I'd put some guppy grass or something in their traveling thing just in case for a tad extra air(that always freaks me out! But I'd be more comfortable sending snails around over fish). I have one really good sized one that is gorgeous that the kids would probably love. Several ok sized ones anyways, one slightly larger one, they're all fairly pretty. lol
I got my snails for free(assassins can go anywhere from two to twenty dollars, depending where you live and how hard they are to get, ridiculous, right? lol), and they have no problem in my tank, just grow and spawn all over. I'm gonna sell some. >_>; I like them though. I just need to put my snails I want to breed in the other tank. They don't eat plants, they will eat dead fish, and they absolutely will hunt down snails and eat them. They don't really go for adult mystery snails though, their shell is too hard so they can't do much.

Oh yes, I looove having babies around. For the most part I set up for it on purpose, but every so often accidents happen.

As for getting into other fish: I have. There are many non-liveberers I like. The problem is more how much they cost, and housing, not to mention proper water stats and experience level. I love gourami's. I also like a couple types of tetras and barbs...it's just that I don't think they would be happy in any of my tanks, they were set up specifically for livebearers. I'm a little off on PH though. lol But nobody seems to mind, though I would like to heighten it a little bit...my snails mind. x.x I would like to have them in my ten gallon, but the water is pretty soft in there compared to what they want. It's only about 7.2-7.3 in that tank, the rest stay around 7.3-7.4. So a little higher in the big tanks. I used to have harder water, I think some of my plants and driftwood softened it more than I like. I really would like to have all kinds of other fish, but I've found them harder to keep both home-wise, and attitude-wise. c.c

One of these days I'm gonna have a cichlid tank, as well as one for tetras or barbs, and a tank just for some gourami's. I would certainly like to breed gourami's, I do love them. They're such interesting fish with bigger personalities than I thought fish could get, and smart as whips! Capone really likes me too, he's always coming by the tank to hang out when I do, and he jump out of the water to take food from my hands(found that out on accident). He even squirted water in my face a few times...probably a "Hey, stop cleaning and FEED me!" lol

I'd also like a tank just for the larger plecos. I like the long-finned ones really a lot, i'd love to breed them! But I'd like a tank just for them to have, maybe with a couple other peaceful fish. A nice big tank. And one of these days I will have a really big tank...and if that happens, I want one of the larger pleco species that get HUGE! A lot of people think them plain and don't want them, but my aunt had a common pleco that was very curious and happy with a goofy personality.

Cichlids were actually the type of fish I was going to start with, not livebearers. However, people all over would give me horror stories over info I requested on them. x.x Destroying tanks, breaking heaters, chewing off the water sealers, killing eachother even when with the right kinds of fish and groups with proper tank size, I said EESH, something easier, yes. lol But now I know a little more. They ARE aggressive fish, so they do need proper things. But they're not monsters like people make them out to be, although like my cat, I am sure monsters exist in every species. They also needed more room than I had when I started. ^_~

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Old 02-17-2013, 10:17 PM   #174
 
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With the cichlids, it really depends on the specefic fish you're talking about. They're all SO different. . . if you're looking into the bright rift valley or Tanganyika cichlids, then yeah - you'll want a densely popluated tank with sand and rocks - no plants - and very hard water. If you're looking into the softies, like my rams, they need the EXACT opposite, and I really don't consider them to be aggressive - territorial, yes. Aggressive, no - especially when it comes to other types of fish. . .

Ph is one thing, but it doesn't reflect your water hardness. I'm not sure if you got around to reading the book I posted for you when you asked about care of B.Rams, but one of the first paragraphs in the first post got into that a little bit and I put up a link to help explain it a bit. What you NEED to know before going any further is your Gh. Ph, Kh can be adapted to fairly easily by the fish, as long as it stays stable within about 1 DGH, but Gh is what really matters. You can get a kit from API, or call your water people, they *should* be able to tell you.

Y'know what I did when I had sooooooooo many fish I wanted, lol? I went to all of the local shops with a notebook and wrote down every fish I loved. Then I came home and looked 'em all up. I was able to narrow the list quite a bit right off based on tank size(s), water hardness, and temperature. Then I went from there. Lucky for me, my absolute top picks worked together in my water with my setup. Doing it that way really helped ME to stay on track with doing the research first and keep from impulse buys. . . if you want to run any ideas by me, I'd be glad to help you put your ideal tank together if I can :) I haven't kept all of the fish in the world, but I've read many, many, MANY books, and LOADS of profiles over a zillion different sites. I just find this stuff fascinating - even when it comes to fish I know I'll never keep, I like to learn about how their bodies work, where they come from, and why they need what they do. Fish are FASCINATING!!!

Hmmmm, thank you so much for the offer of the snails! I think I'll pass for right now, though. I dunno if the assassin will bother MTS (I've read both sides of that coin, suspect they'd only get the juvies), but I have those in that tank intentionally. Actually have 4 species of snail in there right now - the kids are loving them! Also. . . I don't have an open QT tank, and I'd really want to keep any new animals in QT for 1 month before putting them in. Snails generally can't carry fish illnesses, but in some cases, various bacteria and/or parasites can hitchhike on their shells/bodies/intestines. They'll usually die off after a month or so without a host fish to feed off of, but I have nowhere to put them right now, and I know your tanks have been having troubles. I don't need another problem in that kindy tank - no offense - those poor fish are having a tough enough time as it is! I QT EVERYTHING. Snails, plants. . . if it came from a tank that had fish living in it, it goes into QT for a minimum of a month - it's a very good habit to get into, even if it doesn't 100% guarantee anything, it helps keep the nasties at bay.

Anyway, time is passing. I'm off to make some kiddo's go to seep so I can tell you all about my WORMS!!
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Old 02-17-2013, 10:38 PM   #175
 
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LOL I love hearing about the worms. =p

And you're right, no, I don't think assassins get along with trumpet snails. Juvenile to adult mystery snails are one thing, but the smaller snails are pretty much lunch, or really damaged shells, so it wouldn't be good. As for the tank they're in, I haven't had a single problem with that tank. Only once and it was a light case of ich that was quickly cleared up. lol Regardless, assassins aren't for you unless you want to use them for clean up for a couple weeks and then sell them or put them elsewhere.

As for your book, I did read a good bit of it. I just get it all confused! My KH and GH according to the strips, which are the only things I have to test those two with, say it's very high. Usually it's the highest mark on the coloring board for the GH, and if I recall correctly, every time I test either they're the same and the KH usually comes out a bit lower. I think it was 80. Strips, as you know, aren't very good though, but I will say this about those two: They're always the same.

I don't know a great deal about chiclids for now, but if I ever get into planning it, or where I CAN plan it, I'll be sure to ask you. Right now it's me and the Gourami's, females are so hard to come by! x.x But that's ok, if I ever saw one I'd get it, and I don't have the room for breeding them...it'd be torture knowing I could try, but have no place for the kids and father. LOL
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Old 02-18-2013, 02:05 PM   #176
 
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lol. . . you always find a place for baby fish. . . somehow. . . *giggle* I think it's your talent ;)
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Old 02-18-2013, 04:01 PM   #177
 
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Well...how is THIS for weird? I turned on the light this morning and my molly was trying to mate with my Gourami. lol If that kind of thing ever worked out, they'd sure be some interesting babies. However....this is a not only two males, but one is a livebearer and one is an egg layer. LOL

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Old 02-18-2013, 05:00 PM   #178
 
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HAHAHA! I swear, Livebearers will try to mate with ANYTHING - and that's a flippin' fact! Poor lil' gourami - I bet he feels so violated >.<

Did you see? I posted my wormie pictures/story for you :D
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Old 02-18-2013, 06:17 PM   #179
 
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I did! You have such gorgeous wigglers.

And yeah, this is the first time I've had a molly that was so into mating. Believe it or not. lol I hope to get some good babies from him. I was tempted to put a molly and/or a guppy in there to lessen the stress to my gourami, but I'm not sure if I want to chance it. He may have to deal with the little annoyance for a while. ^^;

All of my fish that were in the main tank were sick and yuck happened seem perfectly fine now. Aside from that hi-fin that has been sick(she in extreme clench and just thin as all else, not much for eating anymore either, I don't think she'll make it. I've got some stress zyme with beneficial bacteria in it since I've done bigger and more thorough vacuuming than I'd like, and some water clarifier which is for the murk, everyone has seemed much happier since I started using it), everyone else is bright, active and seems happy. No more odd behavior and swimming. I am thinking that cory that likes to hang around the middle and plants over being at the bottom is just like that, it doesn't seem to be sick and it goes for food. I'm in the process of clearing out the yuckiness and hopefully will get rid of the murk from the salt and meds soon. Bigger water changes than normal for my weeklies. At least it feels like it...honestly I think it's about the same. 25% from a big tank is a lot of water. x.x I think I've been pulling out 15-20 gallons per week the last two changes. I've found I can't lift my trashcan out of my room this time, couldn't last time either. I change with a vacuum tube thing into a trashcan, do all the water by hand with a pitcher just for my fish.

And have I said yet...MAN that is one fine looking Gold Gourami I have. I always wanted one with those shadowey marks, and I got one, they weren't as bright when I picked him, he was probably stressed and a bit more dull than he is now. He seems happy now. I am worried about that gut of his, it looked like he either ate too much or was bloated, so it's veggies today. =) I've noticed many gourami have a bit more of a gut than a lot of thinner shaped fish though, so maybe it's smaller than I think. He's not as jumpy anymore and seems happy, so we'll go with it and see what happens. Maybe I'll put a tad of epsome salts in. It'll help over hurting regardless. :3

I need to think of a good name that fits his beauty. I used to name a lot of things after anime and game characters and use Japanese words, but I haven't in years...maybe I will think of a good one. ^_~ Or I could always name him after a Greek god or mythical beast, I always do that with my online names these days. xD Afterall, Ren and Cooper were both named after characters in my favorite books(Cooper was named after George Cooper, the King of Thieves with a big nose but handsome looks and a funny attitude from Tamora Pierces Tortall Books, Alanna the cat being named after the main character in that same book quartet in her first series featuring Tortall. Ferrets ARE thieves! =p And Ren after the white tiger in Colleen Houck's Tiger's Curse series, even though that character was a boy, so we used the Japanese meaning for Party).
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Old 02-19-2013, 11:11 PM   #180
 
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well, I have some extremely sucky photos of my little mystery snail, who is indeed a mystery. I'm starting to wonder if a red rmshorn snail hitchhiked in somehow, but I wouldn't know how it did, I haven't added any plants that COULD have snails in a several months, and have only had assassins and mystery snails in the tank. But this guy is certainly a bright orange/red color. What do you think? Just an oddball mystery, or maybe I got a new awesome colored buddy. He's too small for me to tell if he's got the ram horn shape if he is one. lol But he sure is a bright color! Very hard to get photos of the little guy though.


This photo is much better that the rest I got, but I couldn't get any good ones of him from the side or back. lol He looks mystery snail shaped to me, but what an odd color. I googled and haven't found any quite like that, but they do apparently come in darker orange and red colorings. I am wondering if this is the result of a dark striped purple breeding with a blue/white/yellow(most of my so-called blues are more white with a bit of blue, or an offwhite/yellowey color with a bit of blue), mystery snail. lol Maybe it'll darken up into another dark striped purple, but I hope not, I like that oddball color. Never seen it on a snail aside from a ramshorn snail.





This is a photo of a red ramshorn snail I found when googling red mystery snails, are they supposed to be the same thing? Their shells look quite different to me, but that color is the exact same, not that you can really tell from my cruddy photos. lol
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