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Interbreeding species of Danios. Has anyone done this?
Old 02-01-2009, 07:27 PM   #1
 
Question Interbreeding species of Danios. Has anyone done this?

So, I was looking at the Glofish at work the other day as I was talking to a customer about thier origins and whatnot and started thinking about breeding the Glofish to regular Zebra Danios. My question, and the experimentation comes into play when I started thinking about breeding the Glofish to Leopard Danios or even Pearl Danios. Is it possible to interbreed species of Danio like that and has anyone ever tried this before? And would I be correct in thinking that if i bred the longfinned versions of the danios to the glofish, i'd just get long fined versions of the offspring? Any input would be appreciated as well as past experiences.
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Old 02-03-2009, 03:58 PM   #2
 
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The glowfish and regular zebras will likely breed just fine. What you will end up with is fish that you cannot sell. Glowfish are patented and are illegal to sell except those that come from the patent holders or a licensee. Most of us who breed fish will trade them around for fish store credit or similar things but if you breed a glowfish and do that you are breaking patent laws. It is a sad but true fact.
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Old 02-03-2009, 04:35 PM   #3
 
I'm not looking to sell them, just see if i can, and see what kind of fun new little creatures will come out of it. Do you think it's possible to interbreed the species tho? I mean, even zebra-leo crosses would look pretty cool if they had stripes and spots.
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Old 02-03-2009, 04:53 PM   #4
 
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I'm not looking to sell them, just see if i can, and see what kind of fun new little creatures will come out of it. Do you think it's possible to interbreed the species tho? I mean, even zebra-leo crosses would look pretty cool if they had stripes and spots.
Why would you do that, only to probably have destroy them down the road? I think that it would be cruel.
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Old 02-03-2009, 05:01 PM   #5
 
Why would i have to destroy them? Last I checked there's no patent on a natural creature, and if i can get them to survive to a plausable size then I can share them either with the company I work for and thus, some of my favorite customers as well as my friends, and with the Glofish I'l just keep what I can manage to keep alive. Worst case scenario, I have fish who like to eat fish, altho I highly doubt it will come to that. Likewise, say this works at all angles and i have a few hundred fish, I have access to much much larger tanks, however, both of these past two options ore the far extremes. This is my first attempt at purposefully breeding fish for the offspring (I have guppies in my tank who's entire purpose in life is to make babies for my knife and rope fish to eat, and no i'm not a bad person, but fish have to eat too) so I'm not expecting a huge success rate, altho I am prepared for it should it happen.
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Old 02-03-2009, 05:32 PM   #6
 
Cool but cruel, like they said you can only keep them for yourself. This is how a new species is produced, but without a team of biologists who are licenced you will get no recognition.perhaps you could submit your idea to a research and development center.Remember each type of danio has its own way of breeding, Other than that you sound like my husband when it comes to twisting the law to your liking> wake up there are instances where ignorance and interpretation will not help you out it will infuriate those judging you.
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Old 02-03-2009, 09:13 PM   #7
 
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wake up there are instances where ignorance and interpretation will not help you out it will infuriate those judging you.
It's not right to judge people based on such inferior things. Everyone has opinions and I respect that, however, with all due respect to whomever might take offense to this, what I do in my own home on my own time is my business. I don't see how you guys are saying it's cruel. I'm not trying to create a new species for any kind of glory or public recogition, I'm only thinking about doing it because it seemed like it could be a fun little project and experiment. I'm trying to vary the things i can say I've done. I know people who have bred the Glofish to regular zebra danios, that's how i know it can be done. at this point, i don't care if the zebras will breed to the leopards or if i make leopard danios with bright red and orange polka dots, i was merely voicing an idea outloud and wondering if anyone has ever tried it, that's all. NOT TO MENTION that all great ideas start with one person, and if I WAS in it to gain something other than satisfying my own curiosity (which is my only goal BY THE WAY) then i couldn't hardly go to any intellegent group of scientists and say "hey i have this totally off the wall idea with no scientific proof to back it up or even suggest that it's remotely worth your time to bother with but here it is anyway!" So, with all that being said I'm going to apologize for letting my anger get the best of me there I ranted a bit more than i realized...
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Old 02-03-2009, 09:37 PM   #8
 
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I'm not looking to sell them, just see if i can, and see what kind of fun new little creatures will come out of it. Do you think it's possible to interbreed the species tho? I mean, even zebra-leo crosses would look pretty cool if they had stripes and spots.
Hey... i've done that
You'll get a mixture of zebra and leopard danio... but no stripe and spot danio though.
and hmmmm, try crossing glofish with a leo danio. you'll get leo glofish. I swear!! I won't tell how i know that though
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Old 02-03-2009, 10:24 PM   #9
 
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Leopard danios are isolated subspecies of zebra danios and don't exist in the wild. Glofish are simply genetically modified zebra danios. They can still crossbreed but not the pearl danios.
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Old 02-03-2009, 10:36 PM   #10
 
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I know people who have bred the Glofish to regular zebra danios, that's how i know it can be done.


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try crossing glofish with a leo danio. you'll get leo glofish.


im almost positive that "glofish" are painted danios and in the process of making them this color most die. this sounds like its the reason why when the glofish spawned they had regular zebra danios. someone please correct me if im wrong.
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