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post #21 of 30 Old 11-21-2013, 09:11 PM
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aww poor fish. idk anything about this type of fish so i was just asking :)
and plants are not hard to deal with you just need proper lighting and nutrients for them so im sure you can be fantastic at it :)
excited to the vampire tetra(?) in his new home!!
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post #22 of 30 Old 11-21-2013, 10:23 PM Thread Starter
Whelp... the temp has been stable at 80F for awhile now.. PH is at 7.2. I added him a few hours ago. He is adjusting well. Still has not ate yet which obviously worries me but I have experience with predator fish and they don't just eat whenever you put food in the tank.. they have to be perfectly stabilized and content in their new environment.

Vampire Tetras are also commonly known to ONLY eat feeder fish and will go days and sometimes weeks without eating if not available.. AND it is a VERY trying task to get them to break this habit.. I have a couple of tactics to do so.. this involves switching them to frozen fish and not live feeders 1st and foremost, and then when they start to recognize that pattern switching to small bits of frozen foods.. then eventually floating pellets by the filter..the water movement can help stimulate them to eat pellets..this could take months to accomplish. The previous owner was only feeding him feeder goldfish

What is most important to me right now and to him is that he eats if possible during this transition. I have crossed the line on one of my ultimate boundaries here.. I have put two feeder goldfish from PetSmart in the tank with him. This is wrong on so many levels. Not just cruel, but also very VERY bad for him. Putting a dirty, and potentially diseased cold water fish in 82 degree water is one of the dumbest things I've ever done.. My justification is that he has been doing it for a little while anyway and to stop now during a transition period could be more than he is willing to do.. I also know that these Feeders are doomed anyway if I didn't participate in feeding them.. Again I feel like an idiot posting this on here.. but I want to share this experience in its entirety with you all.




84 Custom (72"x15"x18") - 6" Payara "Aramis"
75 - *Restocking Soon*
30 Long - 7" Pleco "Denzel", 3" Flowerhorn "Tyson"
10 QT - Breeding Pair Jack Dempsey (For Sale)
2.5 - Male King Betta - "Jax"
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post #23 of 30 Old 11-21-2013, 10:35 PM
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nice

Great to see your diy tank up and running. Great fish! If you have any trouble getting your fish switched over to frozen foods, let me know... I gotta couple tricks. Please don't stop posting pics of that awseome tank.
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post #24 of 30 Old 11-21-2013, 10:43 PM
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Did you at least gut load the feeders first?
That way he'll get as much nutrition as possible for their sacrifice.
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post #25 of 30 Old 11-21-2013, 10:53 PM Thread Starter
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Did you at least gut load the feeders first?
That way he'll get as much nutrition as possible for their sacrifice.
Not this time around. Though I have been putting some flake in this tank to get the goldies to the top. I was told this Payara likes to take his prey from the top. So maybe it will bring them up and distract them or promote him to strike.

I don't expect much to happen tonight. I'll give him the rest of the night and whatever is left tomorrow, dead or alive, is coming out. If they are still alive I'll fill them up and try again tomorrow night.
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84 Custom (72"x15"x18") - 6" Payara "Aramis"
75 - *Restocking Soon*
30 Long - 7" Pleco "Denzel", 3" Flowerhorn "Tyson"
10 QT - Breeding Pair Jack Dempsey (For Sale)
2.5 - Male King Betta - "Jax"
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post #26 of 30 Old 11-22-2013, 02:13 PM Thread Starter
*Quick Update*

I went downstairs today and only saw one feeder in the tank.. The other wasn't anywhere to be found.. considering this tank has no furniture or anywhere to hide.. I'm assuming he ate last night!!! I am very happy he is settling in well. I will be away this weekend, but I'll post up an update when I get back If anything happens while I'm away.. fingers crossed.
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84 Custom (72"x15"x18") - 6" Payara "Aramis"
75 - *Restocking Soon*
30 Long - 7" Pleco "Denzel", 3" Flowerhorn "Tyson"
10 QT - Breeding Pair Jack Dempsey (For Sale)
2.5 - Male King Betta - "Jax"
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post #27 of 30 Old 11-23-2013, 12:38 AM
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post #28 of 30 Old 11-23-2013, 02:14 PM
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Nice job! Are you going to eventually switch over to canisters for that tank. I am thinking the HOBs along with the powerhead are creating conflicting currents That might take away from he stream effect.
Btw thats a great fish you have! I love big fish.
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post #29 of 30 Old 11-23-2013, 09:34 PM Thread Starter
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Nice job! Are you going to eventually switch over to canisters for that tank. I am thinking the HOBs along with the powerhead are creating conflicting currents That might take away from he stream effect.
Btw thats a great fish you have! I love big fish.
Thanks Agent13 ..You know... I am way overdue on making to switch over to canisters. I really should.. I am going to pick up a 55g and when I do ill probably switch 2 AC70s to that and get a canister for this tank.. I am looking at an Eheim, just what model to get is the next question.. It'll be my first canister. I've never gone bigger than 55g in my experience. Canisters and real plants are my next ventures. :)
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84 Custom (72"x15"x18") - 6" Payara "Aramis"
75 - *Restocking Soon*
30 Long - 7" Pleco "Denzel", 3" Flowerhorn "Tyson"
10 QT - Breeding Pair Jack Dempsey (For Sale)
2.5 - Male King Betta - "Jax"
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Thanks Agent13 ..You know... I am way overdue on making to switch over to canisters. I really should.. I am going to pick up a 55g and when I do ill probably switch 2 AC70s to that and get a canister for this tank.. I am looking at an Eheim, just what model to get is the next question.. It'll be my first canister. I've never gone bigger than 55g in my experience. Canisters and real plants are my next ventures. :)
Oh yay! Eheims are my fav canister! I run two 2217s on my 72g so i think that would do or maybe even the next size up. I over filter as the fish in my 72 need it and super clean water. I also us the same powerhead you have and i certianly do love it.
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