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DIY: 110g w/ 55g refuge
Old 10-13-2010, 07:54 AM   #21
Yup sadly lol... I'm moving, project will be put on hold.

Good news, plans for the tank are finished regarding the stand.

As for the sump, I'm looking at deciphering what kind of pump. I have a contact I need to get a hold of. He has a vary nice pump that will draw water out of the sump, then up to the tank. However it's a large higher GPM one... so With some valve controls and an overflow excess drain back to sump... I should hopefully be able to slow it down. Should be pretty cheap, 30-50 bucks probably.

The other option is to buy an underwater pump, I'm thinking that a 1300 gph with UV waterfall pump would work nicely. From what I read most people had problems with the system clogging in ponds... however if the water is filtered first, the pump's filter wont clog. The addition of the UV light will help kill off algae in the tank even more so as well. Which would be a nice added feature. The pump has built in features that shut off the pump in case of low water levels, so it can last longer.

Shop smartpond 1300 GPH Water Garden Waterfall Pond Pump with UV at

Now 1300 gph on a 110 is a great size pump... lol... so some valves to control the speed and the overflow spout back to sump will help.

I'm also looking into Battery pack surge protectors. I think if the power goes out I can keep sump pump running but kill the rest. Regardless the system would shut down without problems if the power went out because of siphon break and all that.

On the other side of it all, this project will have to be put on hold until after the move for buying wood / pipes etc. As well need to fix my car. Just junked one of them (almost classic, brake lines and more rusted out, to lazy to fix)

Keep feeding me ideas if anyone has them I'm open to design ideas and all that still.

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Old 10-23-2010, 08:00 PM   #22
I've been doing some research. I found that a 4' board of 6x6 will hold over 4k lbs per board. This is a substantial weight load.

I'm going to re-design my project with four 6x6 posts. No center posts. Using Lag bolts I'll attach 2x4's to the outside top and bottom part of the 6x6 posts. Then I'll attach horizontal beams to the long outer beams to keep from bowing. However they are not for any other support purpose. The tank will rest on the 6x6 beam almost entirely on each post. Plywood sides and back... the front will be hinged doors for working on sump. Sump will slide in from the front way. Ply wood set on top and secured down. To help balance the weight distribution.

Basically if I'm correct in the design, this table should technically have a max weight limit of over 15k lbs. Will I get there nope.. I only need it to hold 1k to 1.5k lbs max. Meaning longevity for the stand.

This would seem weird I know, However if the tank rests on each of the posts, not the outer beams, I don't see why the beams would bend or buckle.

Well enough talking about it I want to build it.. but still waiting to find out if I will be moving to Tn or not lol.
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Old 10-24-2010, 08:22 PM   #23
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wow impressive.. i looked around after reading this post and you have a great plan here man.. can not wait to see it moving along.. i know it could be a long time but i am still following along here.......... very very good idea on this one and will make the inside more open for your sump with out having to be super bulky
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Old 10-25-2010, 10:49 AM   #24
Here's a direct link to the 6x6 outline view...

I'm still adding to it, however this is the supporting corners and the outside beams that will be bolted to the corners. I'll be adding a lot more details later on for you all.
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Old 10-25-2010, 10:54 AM   #25
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that is sweet!!
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Old 10-26-2010, 08:18 PM   #26
Updated Front view... The base 2x4's are in the exact same location on the top section. On top you see a different colored board, this is a piece of ply wood. It sets not directly on the edge, because I'll take molding to give it a more dynamic look. I'll have to do some extra measurements, but it is possible that I'll have to make some minor adjustments on the width when I go looking for which molding. Just encase I go for a larger molding that is.

Just realized the bottom center 2x4 is off by about 2 inches to the left... owell lol

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Old 10-26-2010, 08:55 PM   #27
here's the angle view so you can see the supports under the top...
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Old 10-26-2010, 10:08 PM   #28

Here is the final project, excluding the doors I'll add to the front. The hole in the back portion is a generalized location for power strips, the hole wont be that big. In the top wood section I put 3 holes, two intake, one return valve. Reason I have 3 is incase the intake isn't as fast as the return i can add another intake line do the sump. I plan on using a 1300 gph pump. Due to properties of a intake valve on pvc piping it can only allow so much flow. Just a fall back if needed.

Anyways what is everyones thoughts so far on this look?

PS I used Google SketchUp to create the design.
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Old 10-27-2010, 07:54 AM   #29
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very clean design .. its gonna be great!!
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Old 11-11-2010, 08:36 PM   #30
So I've been dicussing with several people. Some from LFS's (great guy, very dependable) others from here and there.

This plan would work... however It would have to be re-inforced with steel or something to prevent the bowing effect.

So I'm scrapping this plant and re-doing my design again. Luckily I know I'm moving to Tn officialy now. Will be there in about 2 weeks. I'll be going to an apartment roughly 2 months after that.

Here's my idea now. Instead of using 55 for a refuge, since I have two 55's laying around. They are almost the same height as a 110... I'm going to build a new stand that will support the 110 as the front main tank, then the 55's on the sides so it'll makea U shape or a slight H shape. It will allow all the tanks to run on the same refuge, and will allow a much larger one.

Now I have to make this stand practicle and useful... so to please my wife, I'll have it house my movie collection 150+ and counting.

Also The main tank will show off endler's ... the second tank on the left or right will have my community of guppies / platies / mollies... and finally the right tank .... I'll put a Piranha school... like 3 of them. The Piranha's will come into the tank later down the road. I will have to wait until the Community tank is nicely populated and the Endler's tank is going decently strong. Pirahna's will eliminate my defective and overstocked fish tanks. As well take care of my snail problems when they become too much.

For any reason my population isn't strong enough I'll go with some feeder fish, chicken, beef, or whater I have extra.

I love TN... unlike Ky .. Piranha's are perfectly legal... and naturally hunt guppies, mollies, and platies in the wild. Mmmm tastey treats.

I'd be haveway tempted to make the piranha's the main 110 tank... but ... i need a huge school of fish to support there eating habbits. 10 +/- fish a week per pirahna...

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