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Old 09-29-2010, 11:24 AM   #11
 
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i hear ya just tossing ideas around..
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Old 09-30-2010, 10:22 AM   #12
 
I've been doing some research... specifically if I use 4x4 posts to replace some 2x4 beams to allow for bigger cabinet doors.

So far so good when it comes to the news on it. Found out it would be similar to building a deck. Same properties exist. 4x4 post to hold 2x4 beams, to support mass amount of weight. However nails and normal screws wont work to attach the 4x4 to the system. I'll need carriage bolts (4"x3/8" bolts with nuts and washers). They'll act as a joint and will support it more so than the beam.

However I'm also looking into Lag bolts as I wont have to pre-drill the hole for the carriage bolt that will need a square entry point.

Lag bolts have some great properties...lol
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g166/jraabe/bolts.png

If i use a 4x4 and mount 2x4's onto the side of it, using a 3/4 inch bold going in all 6" would be over 1000 lbs of weight that one bolt could hold.

However I'll probably go with a 1/2" going into it 4"... so the 2x4 would be on the 4x4... the bolt wold reach 1/2 way into the 4x4.

With that said if I have 6 posts, one on each corner, then two in the middle that should allow me to obtain maximum hold. Regardless with that said, I'll be adding tons of support beams with regular screws along the rest of the system for added support and safety. But this will allow me to maximize entry doors into the bottom half of the unit.

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Old 09-30-2010, 12:00 PM   #13
 
possible 4x4 setup... base view

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Old 09-30-2010, 01:22 PM   #14
 
For pumps I've been trying to decide...

I think I'm going to settle on a "Smart pond 1300 GPH water garden waterfall pump with UV"...

Here is why... the UV will do some extra cleaning for me on removing more algae. As well overall it's had great reviews on the product. Link is below.

Shop smartpond 300-500 GPH Water Garden Fountain Pond Pump at Lowes.com

So with the GPH output I'll receive from the pump I'll have to have two points of draining from the tank, which is easy. I've decided to go with PVC pipe to create this effect. they will drain to the 55 refuge, filter then be pumped back up. While all this is going on the pump will filter water again clean it and pump it back to the tank.

I'll have to add some controls on and a T connector with control encase the GPH is too high for the tank. I can slow it down and let the excess poor back into the refuge.



Thoughts anyone?

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Old 09-30-2010, 04:02 PM   #15
 
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I've been doing some research... specifically if I use 4x4 posts to replace some 2x4 beams to allow for bigger cabinet doors.

So far so good when it comes to the news on it. Found out it would be similar to building a deck. Same properties exist. 4x4 post to hold 2x4 beams, to support mass amount of weight. However nails and normal screws wont work to attach the 4x4 to the system. I'll need carriage bolts (4"x3/8" bolts with nuts and washers). They'll act as a joint and will support it more so than the beam.

However I'm also looking into Lag bolts as I wont have to pre-drill the hole for the carriage bolt that will need a square entry point.

Lag bolts have some great properties...lol
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g166/jraabe/bolts.png

If i use a 4x4 and mount 2x4's onto the side of it, using a 3/4 inch bold going in all 6" would be over 1000 lbs of weight that one bolt could hold.

However I'll probably go with a 1/2" going into it 4"... so the 2x4 would be on the 4x4... the bolt wold reach 1/2 way into the 4x4.

With that said if I have 6 posts, one on each corner, then two in the middle that should allow me to obtain maximum hold. Regardless with that said, I'll be adding tons of support beams with regular screws along the rest of the system for added support and safety. But this will allow me to maximize entry doors into the bottom half of the unit.
well i found that with the 4x4 on the inside of the 2x4 i was able to use 3.5" deck-lock screws and tehy have been amazing (and less expensive over all) just wanted to toss that one out also (i am a very very Cheap guy)
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Old 09-30-2010, 04:27 PM   #16
 
never heard of deck lock screws... are you meaning carriage? most decks use them, only reason I ask.
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Old 09-30-2010, 10:01 PM   #17
 
New pics on the 4x4 design, I'm thinking I'll use some steel re-informants in the joints to attach the top and bottom frames to the 4x4's... to be extra cautious.



http://img23.imageshack.us/img23/3418/4x4base01.jpg
http://img72.imageshack.us/img72/7403/4x4front01.jpg
http://img692.imageshack.us/img692/1112/4x4side01.jpg
http://img7.imageshack.us/img7/7633/4x4top01.jpg
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Old 09-30-2010, 10:23 PM   #18
 
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nope a deck lock screw is the ones with a star end (not Phillips)
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Old 09-30-2010, 11:11 PM   #19
 
the carriage bolts use the nut as the screwing method, the lag ones use a ratchet
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Old 10-09-2010, 10:01 AM   #20
 
So totally been working with the design, it's basically the exact same thing I posted however only tweaks are with the bolt system. I have the 110 running right now to test to ensure holding of water.

So far so good.
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