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post #1 of 14 Old 03-31-2010, 05:02 PM Thread Starter
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What do you think of this idea for a loach sand box?

So I have black kuhlis and gravel substrate, but I've been trying for a while to come up with a way to let them burrow in sand without swapping out all the gravel for sand. I think this would work to contain the sand and also look cool.
My idea is to take a pretty green wine bottle, wash it out really well and fill it part way with sand. Then I could stick the bottle into the gravel at a slight angle with the neck up, so they could go in there and burrow. Does anyone think this would be a problem, ie. the water in the bottle wouldn't get as much circulation, they'd get stuck in there, etc?

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post #2 of 14 Old 03-31-2010, 06:13 PM
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could you use something in place of that bottle?

I'm afraid they might get stuck more than anything, plus the circulation issue...

what about like a applesauce jar, they have larger lids...
Dunno think about it, thats my two cents.
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What size tank are your kuhlis in?? Just curious, to get a better visual. I might have an idea for you, if your tank is large enough.

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could you use something in place of that bottle?

I'm afraid they might get stuck more than anything, plus the circulation issue...

what about like a applesauce jar, they have larger lids...
Dunno think about it, thats my two cents.
True, I could keep my eye out for cool looking jars.

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What size tank are your kuhlis in?? Just curious, to get a better visual. I might have an idea for you, if your tank is large enough.
It's only 20 gallons =[ But I would love to hear your idea if you want to share. :)

My boyfriend, observing my guppy tank:
"Someone should write a book about guppies called 'Everyone Poops. And Then Everyone Tries to Eat the Poop Because They Think It's Food.'"
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True, I could keep my eye out for cool looking jars.


It's only 20 gallons =[ But I would love to hear your idea if you want to share. :)
I always want to share! What I did in one tank, and it's working well, was to put in a divider (plexiglass, with the edges dulled, the same height as the sand and gravel. Gives the loaches a little play box but keeps the sand in check.

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post #6 of 14 Old 04-01-2010, 08:24 AM
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I was thinking something along that lines as well ... but you had said you wanted the bottle lol...
hmmm

another thought is find something that might be wide enough to hold sand, and can be cut down to the height of the gravel...

I'm not a huge fan of plastics but there are milk cartons. as an example... You could make something out of rocks...

Take a piece of slate, and use silicone to add rocks around the boarder of it, make sure there is no gaps with silicone so sand doesn't fall through... and fill that with sand.

I actually like that and think i might have to try that one lol... hey you can even set that on top of the gravel if you wanted or in it... hmmm interesting.
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Well the problem with it being the height of the gravel is that I imagine the sand will eventually end up in the gravel...

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"Someone should write a book about guppies called 'Everyone Poops. And Then Everyone Tries to Eat the Poop Because They Think It's Food.'"
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I always want to share! What I did in one tank, and it's working well, was to put in a divider (plexiglass, with the edges dulled, the same height as the sand and gravel. Gives the loaches a little play box but keeps the sand in check.
I'm not sure I understand...

My boyfriend, observing my guppy tank:
"Someone should write a book about guppies called 'Everyone Poops. And Then Everyone Tries to Eat the Poop Because They Think It's Food.'"
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post #9 of 14 Old 04-01-2010, 07:36 PM
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I think the wine bottle idea is interesting, but I would use a clear bottle so you could see inside. I don't think they would find the mouth unless it was pretty flush with the gravel, but who knows. In general, I wouldn't worry about the water quality inside the bottle, if they don't like it, they will leave. If you were worried, you could always gently swish and pour out some of the water from time to time. Also, even if several loaches got stuck "3 stooges style" in the neck, they would have to be pretty fat, and would still prob work it out themselves.

It would be pretty cool the see the coolies pouring out of the bottle at feeding time!
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I think the bottle idea sounds dangerous. Water flow would be little to none in there, so if the fish went in there he could very well deplete the oxygen levels and suffocate. I've heard of fish dying in bottle traps that were left in the tank too long. I wouldn't risk it, if it were me.

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