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Sarasa Comets: Unexpected sudden growth? Should I be worried?
Old 12-01-2011, 11:50 AM   #11
 
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Do you use a liner with a pond that big?
Oh yes! It is not a prefabricated liner like you would see at a home improvement store. It is actually the stuff used to cover roofs (some heavy rubber that goes under the shingles). We just basically dug a hole and put the liner over said hole. Well, I dug most of the hole and then we called in the professionals to do the rest.

Sanguinefox. Lip service! That's good. I've heard people call that the food dance. Goldfish are a lot smarter than most people give them credit. They easily recognize who feeds them. Try looking up Fish School online. They even have video.

I would love to upgrade to a 75 gal and get a few more goldies. I think I'll keep a watch out at the local thrift stores. Thanks for the wonderful idea! :)
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Old 12-05-2011, 12:28 AM   #12
 
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Oh yes! It is not a prefabricated liner like you would see at a home improvement store. It is actually the stuff used to cover roofs (some heavy rubber that goes under the shingles). We just basically dug a hole and put the liner over said hole. Well, I dug most of the hole and then we called in the professionals to do the rest.

Sanguinefox. Lip service! That's good. I've heard people call that the food dance. Goldfish are a lot smarter than most people give them credit. They easily recognize who feeds them. Try looking up Fish School online. They even have video.

I would love to upgrade to a 75 gal and get a few more goldies. I think I'll keep a watch out at the local thrift stores. Thanks for the wonderful idea! :)
Speaking of lip service I've put them on a bit of a diet and two of the slimmed out a bit.The other one is still rather chubby. He makes for good pictures though. I'll update my video thread with two hilarious pictures someone I know managed to take.
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Old 12-15-2011, 04:35 PM   #13
 
Sorry for the double post. I've decided to give it a try with the Orange thing? I put a slice of orange in there with a new clip that I bought. At first they were a little afraid of the thing but after a little bit they decided to check it out.

Now If I put a slice in there they devour the insides in less than 1-2 hours. Which is great, and now they look forward to it and even look for it in that spot. My only question now is, how much is too much? I wouldn't mind giving it to them every day as a good daily treat but could that possibly hurt them in any way?
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Old 12-15-2011, 04:57 PM   #14
 
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Glad your goldies like the orange. Mine love it, too. I think I have a video of them going at it.

Anyway, as far as a daily treat, the only thing it might hurt is your filter. All the little filaments and other stuff from the orange commonly get sucked up into my filter. It makes cleaning it a little difficult. I also find myself netting bits out of the plants. Don't want to leave the bits in there to rot and make my nitrates go any higher than they already are.

I think a better idea would be to vary their treats. Oranges on some days and spinach or red lettuce on others. Zucchini is another good one. My goldfish go bonkers for it. Variety in a diet is the key to a good diet!

Oh and about the goldfish that never slimmed down, it might just be a female. The females are often rounder and more plump than males. That is how I sex my koi. The females have a very nice round shape to them. Males are much slimmer. I can imagine the same holds true with commons.
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Old 12-16-2011, 11:54 AM   #15
 
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Glad your goldies like the orange. Mine love it, too. I think I have a video of them going at it.

Anyway, as far as a daily treat, the only thing it might hurt is your filter. All the little filaments and other stuff from the orange commonly get sucked up into my filter. It makes cleaning it a little difficult. I also find myself netting bits out of the plants. Don't want to leave the bits in there to rot and make my nitrates go any higher than they already are.

I think a better idea would be to vary their treats. Oranges on some days and spinach or red lettuce on others. Zucchini is another good one. My goldfish go bonkers for it. Variety in a diet is the key to a good diet!

Oh and about the goldfish that never slimmed down, it might just be a female. The females are often rounder and more plump than males. That is how I sex my koi. The females have a very nice round shape to them. Males are much slimmer. I can imagine the same holds true with commons.
Ah that makes sense. So when you put the Zucchini in do you do anything special with it? Or does it get sliced, rinsed and then put in the holder?

Well two of them are definitely more plump than the third. So two may be female? One of them is getting on my nerves though. It is bigger than the three and it's a bully. It also pushes the Bichir's around during early feeding time and that aggravates one of them. I contemplate what to do. I could replace the cave on the right with another log and see if that will make both Bichir feel more secure (one keeps trying to go int other log and gets chased out by the one who "owns it".)

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Old 12-16-2011, 02:27 PM   #16
 
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For the zucchini I freeze it beforehand to help it sink in case they wiggle it loose. I try to slice it thin so it doesn't stretch the clip. I also like to cut it in half to make it easier for my goldies to nibble on it. I have also cut up the zucchini into bite-size pieces and hand fed it to them. That's also really fun. It makes them nibble at my fingers every time I put them in my tank.

As far as the bichir-goldfish interaction, I can't really speak for the bichirs, but I think you have the right idea to add more hiding places. For the goldfish, I can say that the bully is probably just trying to be an alpha fish. I have seen this in my koi. There are alphas and betas. You just have a really alpha, alpha. He's trying to keep everyone in line.
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