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Old 09-23-2012, 09:11 PM   #11
 
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Agree with Byron on this, it will work only if there is nothing else going in the tank with it and it is decorated as suggested.
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Old 09-23-2012, 09:21 PM   #12
 
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The only thing in that tank is a snail, which I can move to any of my other tanks once I get the RTS.
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Old 09-24-2012, 01:10 AM   #13
 
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Nice! I just need to redecorate the tank and get a heater. It used to house a ryukin goldfish.

Definitely want some plants and driftwood in there.
36" is too small and given that the red tail shark has small closely packed scales and relatively thin skin you don't want to put bog wood in in real terms as its likely to lead to injury of at the very least the mucus membrane, leaving the fish open to infection. This fish is an obligatory carnivore that will accept proprietors food so it is ideally suited to a planted tank but given its potential size of 7" in the aquarium 36" is too small... Do it right and set up a properly suited aquarium for a species that is actually on the endangered list now!
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Old 09-24-2012, 01:23 AM   #14
 
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36" is too small and given that the red tail shark has small closely packed scales and relatively thin skin you don't want to put bog wood in in real terms as its likely to lead to injury of at the very least the mucus membrane, leaving the fish open to infection. This fish is an obligatory carnivore that will accept proprietors food so it is ideally suited to a planted tank but given its potential size of 7" in the aquarium 36" is too small... Do it right and set up a properly suited aquarium for a species that is actually on the endangered list now!
I'm confused. You have two silver sharks in a 48 gallon aquarium, when they require a 6 to 8 foot tank. They're in with so many fish your tank appears to be grossly overstocked, and you are suggesting a 36" tank is too small for a singular fish that may or may not reach 7"

You do realize Silver Sharks get as big as 14"?

Your Goldfish tank seems to be overstocked as well. I kept two ryukins in my 35 gallon, 36" tank, and that was fully stocked for how large they get.

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Old 09-24-2012, 01:57 AM   #15
 
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I'm confused. You have two silver sharks in a 48 gallon aquarium, when they require a 6 to 8 foot tank. They're in with so many fish your tank appears to be grossly overstocked, and you are suggesting a 36" tank is too small for a singular fish that may or may not reach 7"

You do realize Silver Sharks get as big as 14"?

Your Goldfish tank seems to be overstocked as well. I kept two ryukins in my 35 gallon, 36" tank, and that was fully stocked for how large they get.
Forgive me for saying so but this is not about my tanks. And having kept fish for over 25 years and having a degree in marine biology I suspect I might be aware of the very basics of this hobby. As such I am not about to justify myself other than to say that I have not had loses in a very long time and in fact I have fish fry happily swimming around in there!
I would suggest doing a lot more research about the fish that people keep and also gaining a lot more experience before criticising others.
I was actually only trying to help you avoid a potentially disappointing situation. I will not bother in future.
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Old 09-24-2012, 08:11 AM   #16
 
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36" is too small and given that the red tail shark has small closely packed scales and relatively thin skin you don't want to put bog wood in in real terms as its likely to lead to injury of at the very least the mucus membrane, leaving the fish open to infection. This fish is an obligatory carnivore that will accept proprietors food so it is ideally suited to a planted tank but given its potential size of 7" in the aquarium 36" is too small... Do it right and set up a properly suited aquarium for a species that is actually on the endangered list now!
48 Gallons is too small because the silver shark grows to 14".

As you said about the RTS, so goes for the Silver Shark...

This fish is an active swimmer so it is ideally suited to a 6 to 8 foot tank but given its potential size of 14" in the aquarium 48 gallons is too small... Do it right and set up a properly suited aquarium.

I'm just suggesting, take your own advice.

I too have fry swimming around my tank. I posted a video yesterday. You know so much you can't take the same friendly advice you're giving out? Priceless.

I see last night your tank was listed at 48 gallons, and now you have changed it to 90 gallons. Haha! Can we see a picture of your tank? And some videos? So we know it's not just some pic you pulled off google.

I'm sure you know silver sharks, or bala sharks are shoaling fish (try reading the profile, they must have skipped that in class) and prefer to be in a group of at least 5, not a pair. A 90 gallon tank is still not large enough for the recommended group of five of these fish. So you may want to change your tank profile to 125 gallons or larger.
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Old 09-24-2012, 08:29 AM   #17
 
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Red tipped(finned),Red tail, Rainbow, are all quite active, and often tempermental.
These fish, get along with other shark's,small fishes,about as often as single specimen tank's remain single specimen.
They,,like the loaches,,appreciate water with some movement,wood and smooth river stones are O.K. ,and plant's will most likely need to be anchored to said wood or rock,or floating, to prevent them from being uprooted while these fish forage for food.
Rainbow variant is the least territorial,aggressive,with other tankmates.
just my two cent's.
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Old 10-23-2012, 08:20 PM   #18
 
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Also trying some live plants for the first time.
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Old 11-03-2012, 03:53 PM   #19
 
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about as often as single specimen tank's remain single specimen..
Snide remarks aside, here is an updated video of my RTS. Yes, he's still a single specimen, wise guy.

I need to get a lighter background, he's hard to see against the dark backdrop.

He's usually camera shy, but I got a decent shot of him today.

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Old 11-18-2012, 12:21 PM   #20
 
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I hate admitting I'm wrong two weeks after making snide remarks of my own. But here it is.

My LFS got in some dwarf puffers so I bought a 10 gallon kit, planted it and bought 3. They're awesome. Turns out they're not dwarf puffers, they are Amazons. They need a bigger tank.

This is a description of the Amazons:

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Very active but quite placid for a puffer, C. asellus can be kept in a community tank with robust species. It will sometimes nip the fins of long-finned or slow-moving tankmates, though, so these are best avoided. Keep it with medium-sized characins, barbs, larger rasboras and robust, peaceful cichlids.
So I have to move the puffers to a bigger tank. My first option is in the 35 gallon (36" tank) with the Red Tailed Shark. I think they may get along. They can all stand up for themselves and I would add some more plants to break up line of site and a couple more hiding spots.

OR, I could put the puffers in my Rainbowfish tank. I have a moonlight gourami I would have to move to my Silver Dollar tank (Can a single Moonlight Gourami co exist with a single Pearl Gourami)? The puffers would be in a 55 with Rainbowfish and Zebra Loaches. The RTS would keep the 35 all to himself.

OR I could put the RTS in the 55 with the Rainbowfish. He would be in a bigger tank, but would have to share. I don't see a problem with the Rainbows, they keep to the upper part of the tank and are fast. The zebra loaches spend a lot of time on the bottom, of course, so don't know if that will be an issue with the RTS. He is currently young and small. He never swims above the halfway point of the 35, and usually hangs out in the driftwood.

Luckily a week later the LFS got in some actual dwarf puffers, so the 10 gallon with the plants and hiding spaces isn't a waste. I'm going to remove the Amazons and replace them with the Dwarves.

And neither of these puffers require brackish water.
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