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post #1 of 11 Old 04-11-2011, 05:49 PM Thread Starter
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I recently got my first aquarium, a 10 gallon tank. Right now we have 2 tiger barbs, 3 rainbow sharks, and a pleco (don't recall the specific type). There's a few hiding places and a few potted plants as well.

I know this is pushing the capacity of a 10-gallon tank, but the GF insisted....I figure we can add another tank (possibly a bigger one) if the fish grow much. For now they're small enough that they almost meet the 1-linear-inch-per-gallon metric.

We have both a generic tropical flake food and algae tablets, and we've also read that both tiger barbs and rainbow sharks like lettuce. But over the past 3 days, we haven't observed the fish actually eating much of the food we've put in. I'm hesitant to put much more in since we don't want the aquarium cluttered with uneaten food, but I'm not sure how to tell whether the fish are eating a healthy amount. Any advice?
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I recently got my first aquarium, a 10 gallon tank. Right now we have 2 tiger barbs, 3 rainbow sharks, and a pleco (don't recall the specific type). There's a few hiding places and a few potted plants as well.

I know this is pushing the capacity of a 10-gallon tank, but the GF insisted....I figure we can add another tank (possibly a bigger one) if the fish grow much. For now they're small enough that they almost meet the 1-linear-inch-per-gallon metric.

We have both a generic tropical flake food and algae tablets, and we've also read that both tiger barbs and rainbow sharks like lettuce. But over the past 3 days, we haven't observed the fish actually eating much of the food we've put in. I'm hesitant to put much more in since we don't want the aquarium cluttered with uneaten food, but I'm not sure how to tell whether the fish are eating a healthy amount. Any advice?

hi there!! welcome to the forums!!!

take the fish back to the store asap before they die! you need to cycle the aquarium first!!!
read the link bellow!! good luck!!!

A Beginner's Guide to the Freshwater Aquarium Cycle

Im glad you joined our community your going to learn alot from people here and again welocme to the tropical fish keeping forums!!!

oh one more thing forget about what they tell you at the store thats why you have us now!!!
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1 inch per gallon is not really a good standard. The fish you listed above will need a 55 gallon tank when they grow to adult size. The rainbow sharks grow to be about 5-6" and require a good amount of ground level swimming room. You will also want to think about adding more tiger barbs to the tank (assuming you get a larger tank), they do much better in groups of 5 or more.

If you are looking to stay with a 10 gallon tank you will want to return your fish and look into something like guppys or platys, both of which dont get very big and can provide you with a variety of colors in your tank.

Also, don't over feed your tank. If you see visable extra food in the tank remove it. I feed veggies to many of my fish, you must remove the uneaten veggies within 24 hours or they will start to break down. Some fish take a while before they realize the veggies are food but if you keep offering they will eventually take them.

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hi there!! welcome to the forums!!!

take the fish back to the store asap before they die! you need to cycle the aquarium first!!!
read the link bellow!! good luck!!!

A Beginner's Guide to the Freshwater Aquarium Cycle
We did let the filter run for 24 hours before adding any fish, per the instructions in the Starter Kit we got. Is there more to it than that? I'll read the link of course.
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We did let the filter run for 24 hours before adding any fish, per the instructions in the Starter Kit we got. Is there more to it than that? I'll read the link of course.
lorax is totally right.

ohh yess Lindley there is moremore to it! you have to be patient but for now just return your fish and get familiar with the cycling proccess before anything else. Your in the right place we will make sure you do everything right before starting a new home for your little fishie friends:) Everyone here loves and cares very much for animals and we all want you to have healthy, happy fish!

If you have any questions just ask, anything at all that you might have in mind just ask it can make a big difference to the health and well-being of your fishies:)

Do you have a liquid test kit?

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post #6 of 11 Old 04-11-2011, 08:51 PM
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I must second the suggestion that you return the barbs and sharks. Not only are you going to have cycling issues (that link will explain that, but feel free to ask questions after), but a 10g is much too small a tank for Tiger Barb or any of the "shark" species even now.

We have profiles here, second tab from the left in the blue bar across the top, or if the name of a fish or plant is in a post it will be shaded and you can click the name to see that profile. Please have a read of the profiles for the Tiger Barb and Rainbow Shark, and you will understand what I'm getting at.

"Small" sized fish in a small tank does not quite work when the fish are potentially large because they grow continuously (unlike us) and the small space has a number of issues to the developing fish. Plus there is the behaviour issue with these two species, that will be clear from the profiles.

Last, welcome to Tropical Fish Keeping forum. Leogtr was correct, advice from fish store staff is not always reliable unfortunately. On this forum many members will see what we are writing, and you will get good advice.

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Something we all need to remember: The fish you've acquired was quite happy not being owned by you, minding its own business. If you’re going to take it under your wing then you’re responsible for it. Every aspect of its life is under your control, from water quality and temperature to swimming space. [Nathan Hill in PFK]
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I do have a test kit, although I would welcome suggestions for a more accurate one as the link above says paper strip tests aren't always accurate (?). Anyway, the tests so far have shown acceptable levels of ammonia, pH, and nitrite although the hardness is rather high.

I saw on this link: Hardy fish for new freshwater aquariums.
that both Tiger Barbs and Rainbow Sharks are able to withstand a fish-in cycle if we monitor the tank closely.

The possibility of them outgrowing the tank is another matter. I am willing to consider adding a larger tank if necessary, but I don't think I'm going to convince the GF to let me take them back to the store.

Are there any products to help accelerate the cycle safely?

One of the tiger barbs is behaving a bit listlessly, just drifting around sometimes, but also occasionally putting on a burst of energy. I don't know if this means he's sick or just resting for the night.
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post #8 of 11 Old 04-11-2011, 11:00 PM
I am cycling my ten gallon and trying the get mom to let me get the masters kit. API liquid teast are the best and as you alreday know cycling can take weeks to months. As siad before more space is needed for the fish listed, I would try to get live plants in there and Byron should be able to help with that if you do need help. Live plants are benificial.

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4 Pangio Kuhli
12 Hemmigrammus Bleheri
2 Botia Lohachata
1 Botia Straita
1 Ancistrus Sp.
6 Poecilia Reticulata




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I do have a test kit, although I would welcome suggestions for a more accurate one as the link above says paper strip tests aren't always accurate (?). Anyway, the tests so far have shown acceptable levels of ammonia, pH, and nitrite although the hardness is rather high.

I saw on this link: Hardy fish for new freshwater aquariums.
that both Tiger Barbs and Rainbow Sharks are able to withstand a fish-in cycle if we monitor the tank closely.

The possibility of them outgrowing the tank is another matter. I am willing to consider adding a larger tank if necessary, but I don't think I'm going to convince the GF to let me take them back to the store.

Are there any products to help accelerate the cycle safely?

One of the tiger barbs is behaving a bit listlessly, just drifting around sometimes, but also occasionally putting on a burst of energy. I don't know if this means he's sick or just resting for the night.

Everyone is right! You will lose your fish unless you are very willing at a drop of a dime, to do water changes. Get Prime water conditioner ASAP if you are planning on cycling with those fish. It will help detoxify the ammonia and nitrites you will get. Get the liquid test kits, and a fish store should let you return them - they'll always have that type of fish when your tank is ready. If not, do monitor very, very closely, know that water parameters can change in just hours time. The cycling process will be extended because you will have to keep levels as close to 0 as possible, making the process take longer. Best of luck and welcome - you'll learn a lot from people here - it's worth reading as much as you can! Your fish will appreciate you putting all this effort into their water.

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post #10 of 11 Old 04-11-2011, 11:26 PM
get a 55 if you can.

38 gallon :
Pelvicachromis Taeniatus Nigerian Red not yet breeding pair
4 Pangio Kuhli
12 Hemmigrammus Bleheri
2 Botia Lohachata
1 Botia Straita
1 Ancistrus Sp.
6 Poecilia Reticulata




The Wet Spot Portland Oregon!!!!!!

ADA: Do!aqua Iwagumi 10 gallon size!
7 Clown Killies
7 Ghost shrimp
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