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This is a discussion on Need Your Input within the Cyprinids and Atherinids forums, part of the Freshwater and Tropical Fish category; --> Originally Posted by fish_4_all It will be an interesting experiment to see if they get a long or if the yoyo and Hillstreams will ...

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Old 07-27-2007, 06:59 PM   #11
 
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It will be an interesting experiment to see if they get a long or if the yoyo and Hillstreams will get along in mixed groups or if they establish seperate terrtitories in the tank and have border conflicts very often.
I have experimented mixing both the hillies and yoyos already and both leave each other alone. The only problem with this mix is the yoyos are pigs and can easily outcompete the hillies for foods although with the algae not part of their diet, the hillies still have an advantage. I try to spread the food around to ensure everyone has his fair share of food and it works for me.
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Old 07-28-2007, 03:18 AM   #12
 
F4A:

I have 4 nozzles (jets) which distribute the return flow from the sump into the tank and which are adjustable such that each "can be pointed in different directions".

The return pump produces approximately 10 "tank turnover volumes"/hour and, as such, the flow out of these "jets" is significant.

I spent several months experimenting with the "direction of these jets" to produce current locations in the tank which "made my fishies happy".

My "drop-back position" (in the event that the air curtains along the walls did not produce desirable currents) was to experiment with the nozzle directions again to produce currents in an area of the tank where these loaches "would be happy".

Folks:

Has anyone "looked at" where I anticipate procuring these loaches?

If so please give me your thoughts (on the loaches as well as the Red Guppies).

I hate to "keep bothering the forum members" with this but this is my first venture outside of what I would term "typical fish (ie. angels, yoyo's, SAE's, tetras, Gold Nuggets, Queens, etc)" and I really do not want to "slobber up" here.


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Old 07-28-2007, 06:36 PM   #13
 
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Folks:

The last year I have spent "a ton of time preparing posts" and have helped (or hope that I have) a bunch of yall out "on technical issues".

Yall's review of the posts in this thread and a response to my previous post would be greatly appreciated.

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Old 07-29-2007, 04:33 AM   #14
 
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Ron.

I had a look at the loaches from the site you posted. Now I have zero experience with these fish so this could all be nonsense.

"Brian" says that he had no current flow in the tank he keeps and breeds them in at all so presumably with your set up they would be "extra happy". From what I understand you have an area of the tank set up so that there will be currents and other areas where there won't beso much current in which case it may just be a case of waiting and seeing what areas they prefer. Since they are currently kept without any flow you may or may not fnd that they don't bother much with the currents as it'd not what they're used to.

You have the algae patch as well so they would be well enough fed, and there are always algae wafers if they eat far more than you anticipate. From my little knowledge on them you seem to have a good set up for them.

The only thing I noticed, and it hasn't yet been mentioned, is the temperature. You lost some angels (really sorry to hear about that :() so I expect you still have some in there and therefore I expect you have a slightly higher than "normal" temperature. Would this suit the loaches? I am sure they prefer slightly cooler temperatures than most fish and notice also that "Brain" keeps them at around 73-76 so they may not be used to it. I would think they would acclimatise but I'm not sure if it would speed up their metabolism (like keeping a goldfish in a tropical tank for example??)

They also seeem kinda expensive but I expect this is much less of an issue for you than it would be for me. I've seen them for 2 in my lfs however. They seem to be coming from a good breeder though so most likely will be worth the bit extra.
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Old 07-29-2007, 05:19 AM   #15
 
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The only thing I noticed, and it hasn't yet been mentioned, is the temperature. You lost some angels (really sorry to hear about that :() so I expect you still have some in there and therefore I expect you have a slightly higher than "normal" temperature. Would this suit the loaches? I am sure they prefer slightly cooler temperatures than most fish and notice also that "Brain" keeps them at around 73-76 so they may not be used to it. I would think they would acclimatise but I'm not sure if it would speed up their metabolism (like keeping a goldfish in a tropical tank for example??)
Good call, Julie. I haven't been too attentive with the other requirements. Cooler temperature will definitely be better for the hillies although they can tolerate higher temperatures but not higher than 80 provided extra oxygenation is available.
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Old 07-29-2007, 05:55 AM   #16
 
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I also must not have been too attentive as I notice now that I have been calling "Brian", "Brain".
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Old 07-29-2007, 05:36 PM   #17
 
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I don't know much about hillstream loaches, but I briefly thought about doing a river setup to keep them. You may want to check out this article:

http://www.loaches.com/articles/hill...-the-fast-lane
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Old 07-30-2007, 01:12 PM   #18
 
Folks:

I very much appreciate yall's input.

I have ordered 6 of these loaches, as many guppies as Brian believes which I can raise in a 10G fancy tank & which I have in the garage and a few "flavors" of plants.

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Old 07-30-2007, 01:20 PM   #19
 
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Folks:

I very much appreciate yall's input.

I have ordered 6 of these loaches, as many guppies as Brian believes which I can raise in a 10G fancy tank & which I have in the garage and a few "flavors" of plants.

Thanks
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