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post #21 of 57 Old 08-20-2012, 10:48 PM Thread Starter
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so fantails cant be mixed with orandas? does that mean i can only keep fantails then?
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post #22 of 57 Old 08-21-2012, 05:42 AM
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You probably can keep them together, but down the road you might have problems like I said, and then what....? I think it would be best to not mix them. Same goes for the telescopes and any other "special" variety.

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I don't see how they're would be problems with feeding if goldfish are pretty slow movinng. If an oranda won't work what other types could I get? Also if and oranda will work could I do 2 fantails and the oranda with the minnows?
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post #24 of 57 Old 08-22-2012, 01:24 AM
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Trust me, they aren't very slow-moving when the food comes out.

The problem with the oranda is their large wens. I've seen some goldfish with wens literally blinding them. I've also seen oranda get wen reduction surgery to enable them to see again. It's generally not a good idea to mix goldfish with wens with those without wens and sight impaired goldfish like telescopes and celestial eyes with goldfish that don't have eye modifications.

Since you've got the hardy fantail, I would just stick to fantails. They come in all kinds of colors. Exotic Gold fish - Fantail Gold fish

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post #25 of 57 Old 08-22-2012, 07:46 AM
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Goldfish are so quick when it comes to food that if smaller fish are not careful and get inbetween them and the food, the fish will become food. And before you tell me that goldfish don't eat other fish - they do. They eat anything they can.

And before you ask - don't mix regular goldfish with fancies either.

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post #26 of 57 Old 08-22-2012, 05:23 PM Thread Starter
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i wouldnt get a regular goldifsh for a 55 gallon.

will ryukins, pearl scales, or ranchus work?

by the way what the heck is a wen?
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post #27 of 57 Old 08-22-2012, 05:29 PM Thread Starter
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now ima have to get another tank for some orandas :) they look like hamsters
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post #28 of 57 Old 08-22-2012, 08:30 PM
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Ranchu don't have a dorsal fin. They do best with other breeds that don't have dorsals as they are very clumsy swimmers. Ryukin can work (most of the time). I have a ryukin and a fantail together, but I also hand feed my fish to make sure everyone gets their fare share. Ryukin are prone to severe swim bladder problems and if they develop these problems they can be picked on by stronger tankmates. Generally feeding the right kind and amount of food prevents the swim bladder problems but not always. Pearlscales are also prone to swim bladder problems and clumsy swimmers. I can't directly speak to their success with fantails because I've never kept pearlies nor do I plan to. But I generally think it's a bad idea. They are really really clumsy swimmers.

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post #29 of 57 Old 08-22-2012, 08:58 PM Thread Starter
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i feed nls medium sinking pellets and i make sure they sink. what do you do about a swim bladder disease? one of my goldies is flipping upside down but it is able to right itself.
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