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Loach hanging out inside the heater. Is this bad?

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Loach hanging out inside the heater. Is this bad?
Old 06-09-2010, 05:09 AM   #11
 
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Algae can be unsightly but it shouldn't bother your fish. Is there any way some sort of chemical, like a cleaner or scent spray or something like that, could have gotten into the tank?
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Old 06-09-2010, 09:58 AM   #12
 
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Algae can be unsightly but it shouldn't bother your fish. Is there any way some sort of chemical, like a cleaner or scent spray or something like that, could have gotten into the tank?
I wonder that as well! I keep a lid on it so I don't think that anything has gotten in since I've gotten up and running. Maybe there was something used on it before I had it set up (I bought it used) that is still present in trace amounts? Acrylic polish perhaps? I rinsed the whole thing out several times before starting it though.

It HAS to be something in the water. Something that standard water test kits don't test for.
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Old 06-09-2010, 09:59 AM   #13
 
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So, I'll throw this out there: how would you blockade heaters to keep nosy fish out but allow water to pass through? Any ideas?
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Old 06-09-2010, 10:25 AM   #14
 
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Could be internal parasites

Try some netting and tie wraps.Old fish net or netting that you can get at the fabric store, panty hose that has some smaller holes not to big to cover it. You would have to clean it every now and then so it does not plug up like a sponge filter for baby fry.

You said your fish were dieing all of a sudden. I have a friend and she could not figure why her fish were slowly stop eating and dieing. It turned out that one of her angelfish had Camallanus worms that had passed from fish to fish. If you have this then look at the sticky under diseases and the one posted Precious Guppies as I posted where my friend got some medicine to treat this. If it is not this type of worm it could be a internal parasite that is killing your fish.

Worms are tricky as they pass through the fish and drop into your sand or gravel and another fish will eat it and start the whole cycle again over a short time and you loose fish slowly. Go to your local fish store and tallk to them about it. Camallanus worms you can see sticking out of the butt of the fish when it's really bad. At this stage most fish will die. Some fish won't survive the treatment that are far gone sadly. If your fish stop eatting then that is a sign they are sick. Maybe you can treat for internal parasites with something.Some people do this in the QT tanks just to make sure they are not bringing anything deadly to their main tanks.,
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Old 06-09-2010, 10:26 AM   #15
 
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i'm trying to work out where he's getting in,
is it at the top there,where there's a gap ?
what if you got some panty hose (like the leg of one)
and put the heater in there ? don't know how safe that would be though ? ?
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Old 06-09-2010, 10:45 AM   #16
 
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You could go the craft store and buy that plastic grid which is cheap for a paper size sheet and use tie wraps to make a box over the heater to enclose it and have it above the water line and secure it in place with a suction cup. Your heater type I have never seen before. All the heaters that I've seen around here do not have that part where you need air flow. You could replace it with a new one that is one solid unit. I always keep a spare heater. They are great for heating treated water for your tanks in the winter time when you do water changes.

l I posted pictures below of the plastic grid. Comes in alot of colors. Some people DIY use it to make dividers in their fish tanks and it is also good to cover intake filters as the holes are small depending on the size of your fish.
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Old 06-09-2010, 10:47 AM   #17
 
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now i think that's a fab idea.
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Old 06-09-2010, 10:54 AM   #18
 
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Great! I keep this stuff on hand all the time. You can use it to make a java moss wall in the back of your tank with java ferns attached with clear fishing line. Once it grows in it is nice. Great for dwarf shrimp tanks. Do you think you might have internal parasites in your tank? That is something you really need to consider when fish die suddenly and your tank is cycled and water is chemistry is fine. Or it could be a ph shock because different fish like soft water others hard. I have angelfish that like the softer water but I slowly got them used to our San Diego hard water and they are fine.

You said that you have loaches. I bought 2 yo yo loaches and they are known to jump out of you tank. I used the above plastic mesh on the openings of some of my tank to block any small opening on top so they do not jump out. This stuff is so handy to have. I even redesigned a Eclipse filter top as I did not like the lid filter system and the plaxtic bar that held it up so I changed it and used a hang on back filter and blocked the opening in the back of the hood with this stuff. I included a picture below of it.

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Old 06-09-2010, 11:19 AM   #19
 
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Here are the picture of the plastic mesh I used to block opening in the top of my tank hood. I also included a picture of the hood I changed on the Eclipse to a hang on back filter and used the plastic mesh and blk. tie wraps to secure it. I ran out of time to post the pictures on the thread above.
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Old 06-09-2010, 11:35 AM   #20
 
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You said your fish were dieing all of a sudden. I have a friend and she could not figure why her fish were slowly stop eating and dieing. It turned out that one of her angelfish had Camallanus worms that had passed from fish to fish. If you have this then look at the sticky under diseases and the one posted Precious Guppies as I posted where my friend got some medicine to treat this. If it is not this type of worm it could be a internal parasite that is killing your fish.

Worms are tricky as they pass through the fish and drop into your sand or gravel and another fish will eat it and start the whole cycle again over a short time and you loose fish slowly. Go to your local fish store and tallk to them about it. Camallanus worms you can see sticking out of the butt of the fish when it's really bad. At this stage most fish will die. Some fish won't survive the treatment that are far gone sadly. If your fish stop eatting then that is a sign they are sick. Maybe you can treat for internal parasites with something.Some people do this in the QT tanks just to make sure they are not bringing anything deadly to their main tanks.,
Hmm, thanks for the input on this :)

It's not all of a sudden though. i had been slowly losing loaches (1 a month, I guess) since I got this tank started up around 4 months ago. I'll have fish that are eating, swimming, looking healthy, have no noticeable spots just show up dead. Even upon death, their bodies look unmarred.

If fish have worms, do they show outward signs? A quick google search seems to indicate that the protrusion of a worm from the anus is the tell-tale sign. I have not seen this in my fish (thankfully - these worms sound like a pain)
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