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Old 11-01-2007, 07:03 AM   #1
 
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im so mad

i tore down my 33 cuz of snails... and it was kinda ugly and needed a make over so it was win win

AND NOW, I DIDNT ADD ANYTHING BUT NEW CRAP *no plants* AND I HAVE SNAILS RUNNING AROUND

AHHHHHHHHHHHHHH *pulls hair*

so i was thinking of adding zebra loaches, like a couple even tho tjhey like to be in group, i aready have my corys to that might not work

i heard they go fine with corys? true?

how is the bioload? so i can rearrange my future stocking
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Old 11-01-2007, 09:18 AM   #2
 
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Lupin is the loach man, however, khuli loaches will eat small snails and will definitely be alright with the cories. You could afford to add a group of them since they are a relatively small loach. Plus, I think I remember from another post that you were interested in khulis anyway, so it could be a better option.
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Old 11-01-2007, 03:20 PM   #3
 
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well i was told that kuhlis MIGHT eat snail eggs, but havent been known to eat snails
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Old 11-01-2007, 04:35 PM   #4
 
yea i was told that too ,but same thing happened. i heard yoyo loaches do good job ,and all other i can think of is clowns but they would too big :( .
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Old 11-01-2007, 05:07 PM   #5
 
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Botia Striata do just fine with Cories and will eat small snails. Get 3 minimum, 5 better. They can get up to 4" long. Mine are around 2 - 2.5 after a year or so. Yoyos get much bigger much faster (up to 6", mine are about 3.5-4" after a year)
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Old 11-01-2007, 09:10 PM   #6
 
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Botia striata is the best option out there.
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Old 11-03-2007, 08:03 AM   #7
 
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hows the bioload?
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Old 11-03-2007, 09:48 AM   #8
 
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I'd rate a B. striata the same as a Brochis splendens cory, or maybe a regular cory plus a neon or 2. Say 5 Loaches take 20 gallons, 3 take 12. Maybe 12 and 7 if the tank were heavily planted and well established.

Make sure it's been at least a month since you put the last fish or plants in. You don't want loaches in a tank with a possibility of ich. They can be treated, and they may survive (all mine survived an ich outbreak), but it takes twice as long to treat, and they will catch it if it's there.

Also, make sure you don't have any sharp edges in the tank. I've had kuhlis literally gut themselves on a sharp rock. (Lesson learned, but an expensive one for the fish.)
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Old 11-03-2007, 10:49 AM   #9
 
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ok well i only have a couple of oval/round rocks and a giant plastic plant, big drift wood and now i need to buy plants, but no fish are in the tank yet

i wanted my 6 corys and like 10 neons and a larger tetra or something in a small group and then these loaches

you think that would be good?
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Old 11-03-2007, 12:51 PM   #10
 
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ok well i only have a couple of oval/round rocks and a giant plastic plant, big drift wood and now i need to buy plants, but no fish are in the tank yet

i wanted my 6 corys and like 10 neons and a larger tetra or something in a small group and then these loaches

you think that would be good?
The Loaches and the cories both occupy the same space and have pretty much the same behavior (though the loaches are much more active). If you skipped the cories, you could do 5 loaches, 10 neons, and 5 larger tetras (say black widows or diamonds) easily. Depending on the size the larger tetras get, you might have room for more.

Now, if you plant the tank heavily and wait 6 months, you'll be able to add more fish then. Whether or not cories would work would depend on the tank footprint. The only 33s I know of are the long (48x12x12) which would be fine to add a small school of cories to (if you made sure you had enough hiding places), and the flat back hex (36x12x22) which I would limit the number of bottom feeders in and get some surface dwellers (pencilfish, hatchetfish, or livebearers).

If you can afford it, Y. sidthimunki would be an even better choice than Zebras. They spend even more time in the mid water, they're even more peaceful, they stay under 2.5", are even more active than zebras, and are cute as a button. They also cost about 3 times as much. Or more. And 5 is the absolute minimum to keep. They too will eat snails and snail eggs.

Be aware that loaches will control your snail population, not eradicate it. I have one tank that has 5 Yoyos and 8 Zebras that still has an occasional snail rear its gelatinous head, and I have another that has 5 Angelicusses, 4 weather loaches, and a Sand Loach that generally has a half dozen largish Pond snails floating around at any given time.
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