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post #1 of 8 Old 07-25-2012, 09:47 PM Thread Starter
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post #2 of 8 Old 07-25-2012, 09:55 PM
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That's a really neat layout! I have large river rock gravel in my goldfish tank, but I think the next setup will have sand. I've heard from a few breeders that it helps with digestion and reduce the amount of "floaty" fancies in a tank. I can certainly see myself having a tank like this (with a massive canister filter underneath).

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post #3 of 8 Old 07-26-2012, 09:18 AM
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It's a beautiful design -- simple, yet elegant. Thanks for sharing the link!
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post #4 of 8 Old 07-26-2012, 08:12 PM Thread Starter
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the only thing I would do different is add a couple vals at the back, not much , just one or 2 near each corner. I have heard from some that sand is bad for gold fish as it irritates there gills. perhaps some experts can fill us in
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post #5 of 8 Old 07-26-2012, 09:43 PM
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I agree. Some vals or a large sword in the back would look really nice. But it all depends on the goldfish. Some don't eat plants, but some will. And some spiteful little buggers will tear them up but not eat them.

I've never heard sand as being bad for goldfish's gills. I don't see why it would irritate them but not the gills of other fish that commonly sift though the substrate. The recommendation to use sand comes from a breeder I know.

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post #6 of 8 Old 07-27-2012, 09:06 PM Thread Starter
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I have tried sand with a common pleco and a bushy nose pleco ( at different times ) and they both ended up dead . Gravel, and Laterlite seems ok with them. potting the plants would help increase there chances with the goldfish (bury the pots and /or hide them behind the rocks. Still a spectacular set up and already am wanting to do it with one of my tanks.
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post #7 of 8 Old 07-27-2012, 09:23 PM
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Are you sure it was from the sand? A lot of people keep plecos on sand. They are common in Amazon-type biotopes in which people commonly have sand.

Potting the plants doesn't always save them from goldfish. I've got a potted sword in my goldfish tank and I still find a nibbled leave after I forget a feeding. Before they got rooted, I did find them uprooted a few times. It's not perfect, but it's much better than what I've got. Little monsters...

I actually do plan to set up a tank like that. I'd like to do a riverine hardscape setup. Except it would be a bit smaller (30 gallons) and have a type of hillstream loach. I'd also like to add a few really gnarly pieces of driftwood. Probably wouldn't be the greatest with the goldfish and their delicate fins, tho.

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post #8 of 8 Old 07-29-2012, 05:35 PM Thread Starter
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I think the issue was I was using the wrong sand(child play sand) ans should have been usin pool filtration sand.
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