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Old 06-04-2013, 02:41 PM   #11
 
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Yeah, mine don't have anything to do with the other fish. HOWEVER, they do inspect new (non rainbow) additions to the tank. They like to get a close look at them and follow them around for a little while. After that, they couldn't care less.


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It's a Hierarchy thing. I've seen my dominant male in the 150 inspect the newbies when they got introduced into the 150. He followed the new ones and flashed a lot. Once he felt like his position was secure though and no one was challenging him everything went back to normal.
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Old 06-04-2013, 03:01 PM   #12
 
Agreed they need a group a mix of males and females is best. Rainbows do breed very easily however mine have never shown any aggression to any other fish apart from rainbows. Mine spawn and completely ignore their tankmates eating their eggs. I have two males and 4 females only aggression is chasing between the males. The eggs don't stand much of any chance in a community tank while they are easy to spawn they are not that easy to raise since fry are very very tiny and usually require specialized foods.

They are very peaceful community fish IMO though they are very active. Also of importance is they are very very food driven fish, they are not food aggressive but they can out compete more docile/shy/slower fish at feeding time. So make sure all fish are getting food and in a 55 gallon best option is to spread food out lenght of the tank. They are actually more likely to show aggression to other fish when kept alone. They are naturally social fish which forms a hierarchy in a group, without the group or with too small of one the fish may try to do this with other species outside the norm. There are always dominant fish in a group of rainbows, typical rainbow behavior always involves daily fin flaring and some dancing between mature fish to maintain their social order mostly amongst males. They rarely ever cause physical harm or go beyond posturing unless a fish tries to move up in 'status' or an established group is enlarged. In both cases there can be outbreaks of heightened aggression usually between specific fish until they figure out who exactly is boss after which aggression goes down. So do be surprised if you see some of this when you add more rainbows.

Far as your fish being a male or female, sexing rainbows is challenging and from the photos I can't tell. Males are usually more common then females in stores but this varies from species to species. Some species have very drab females and are easy to sex while others don't. I have never kept turquoise rainbows in particular. The best way to sex the larger rainbow species is to spend a good 15 minuets watching them in a shop tank especially if looking for females. All the Melanotaenia species (far as I know) follow the rule that a females first dorsal fin will not overlap the second one. This in my experience is the most accurate way to sex them but its also not easy to determine in a store tank. Going by color alone is tricky as these fish can change color extremely depending on mood and usually stay very pale in shop tanks. This link shows a very good picture of a female turquoise.

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Old 06-04-2013, 06:07 PM   #13
 
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This thread is making me feel so much better. I was picturing the rainbows not only being aggressive among themselves, but the other fish too, and I just didn't want to go there. I will get a few more rainbows and just see what happens (as far as what sex they turn out to be). You guys have been invaluably helpful! As long as they aren't going to be maiming or killing each other, I don't mind displaying and chasing. It was exactly the harrassing that Jaysee spoke of that I was afraid of. Thanks so much for the link Mikaila, and all of you who have contributed. Now I know I'm going to do right by my fish.
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Old 06-05-2013, 03:48 PM   #14
 
I recently got a boseman rainbow

I got a boseman rainbowfish to put in with my turquoise rainbow and I also got an Australian rainbowfish. The Boseman annoys my turquoise all the time. Do you think this is normal? I just got them two days ago.
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Old 06-05-2013, 05:11 PM   #15
 
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Yeah, I would have gotten more of the kind you have - that is what we had all suggested.... Boesmanis harass other fish when not kept in a school, in my experience.


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Old 06-05-2013, 07:11 PM   #16
 
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If you can get a couple more Turq that would be even better. I have 6 Boesmani, and 2 Turq and I also have 4 Congo Tetras. They all get along well and race the tank's length for fun and games. That's why they need a 4 foot long tank min. That chase but nothing much ever comes of any aggression. Sometimes the Boes will circle each other, males to males and females to females. But I have 2 large males and 4 females all breeding together spawning on a yarn mop hanging on the side of the tank.
I love them but the Turq (my avatar) are very hard to find here and very expensive. Usually $15.99 a piece CAN$ youch!!

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Old 06-05-2013, 07:24 PM   #17
 
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That's the minimum price for rainbows here, except for australians which are cheap. Only place that sells them (turqouise) cheap is petsmart. My reds were $25 each for males (m/f pair for $25, or just a male for $25).
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Old 06-05-2013, 11:15 PM   #18
 
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OP here again. Went back to Petsmart today. Their Turquoises are $6.49, by the way. Very reasonable compared to what I thought they'd be. Anyway, I got another one. So I have two now. They did have Boes there too, and they sure were nice looking with their orange patterns. Glad I didn't get one though, after reading that they tend to annoy the Turquoises. The Australians were even cheaper than the Turquoise. I think they were $5 and change. Same for the Boes.

This one looks like a male to me. He's more humped than the other I have, which is more torpedo shaped. He also has brighter colors. They are 2.5 inches long (was able to put a ruler up to the new one today when he was close to the glass, lol. His front dorsal definitely overlaps his rear dorsal, and on my other one, it doesn't even touch. Here's a couple pics of the new one. Do you think he might be male?[ATTACH]020.jpg[/ATTACH]
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Old 06-06-2013, 09:07 AM   #19
 
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Yes I would guess Male... just from the colors alone. The males are brighter and bluer than the females. $6.49 for a Turq....

Awesome purchase!! You will love how they look out the glass at you too!!
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Old 06-06-2013, 10:20 AM   #20
 
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Yes I would guess Male... just from the colors alone. The males are brighter and bluer than the females. $6.49 for a Turq....

Awesome purchase!! You will love how they look out the glass at you too!!
We have a couple of PetSmarts around us that I will get livestock from (and some that I won't - but hte same is true of smaller LFS too) - the prices on some of the fish are just too good to pass up IF the quality is there. I recently picked up Denisonii for $5.50 a piece - they run $19.99 a piece at every other store I have found them in. (granted, this was a sale price, but their regular daily price is still less than that). Their rainbow prices tend to be about half that of most other sources, but the catch is you have to catch them on a day when they have quality stock...which can be doubly hard to determine given the washed out nature of rainbows in most retail tank settings (LFS or big box).
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