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post #11 of 18 Old 02-05-2011, 04:23 PM Thread Starter
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Just letting you all know his new tank is up and running! My standing water tested awesome and the Oranda is having a blast in he new home. I will keep checking the water and doing changes as needed.
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post #12 of 18 Old 02-06-2011, 01:40 AM
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My goldfish absolutely hate Gel foods. I made a whole big batch the other day and they took one bite and spat the whole thing out. I think it's the gelatin they don't like, even when I added some tomato paste and garlic to make it a bit more appetizing. They also have no interest in any of my plants like elodea and bacopa. The only thing they took some bites out of were half-dead vals.

I forgot to mention this, but you will also have to watch the pleco. That particular species is kind of notorious for feeding on the slime coat of goldfish. A big, slow-moving fancy is a fairly easy target after all.
Which gelatin did you use?

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My pleco is just your normal, everyday pleco. Yeah, the one that gets big. He has not bothered my goldfish at all. The only suckerfish (witch stinks cause they are super awesome at cleaning) that would attack my past GF's were the little yellow fu**ers. Sorry for the french, but thats what I call them :P

I know off hand that the PH was 7.4. I will do another check and get back to you on the others cause it seems I misplaced my paper that I wrote it on.

As for food, he gets a mix of:

Wardley: Goldfish Crumblers
Aqueon: Goldfish Granules
Tetra: Baby Shrimp

I also will toss in a lettous leaf, chunk of orange, bloodworms (frozen) as a snack one in a while. Not all together, I just pick something for them to nibble ever few days.

I have never used supplements on my goldfish in the past, but I will look into it. I will also look into the bare bottom tank for my new one and see how it goes. I might have to wait on the potted pants cause they can be a bit pricey.
You can always buy plants and just pot them.

The yellow ones could be golden Chinese algae eaters. They do suck slime coat so they're totally incompatible in community setups.

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Just letting you all know his new tank is up and running! My standing water tested awesome and the Oranda is having a blast in he new home. I will keep checking the water and doing changes as needed.
Wowee!!! That oranda is some beauty!

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post #13 of 18 Old 02-06-2011, 02:01 AM
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The tank looks nice. How big is your Oranda? He looks like the size of a baseball. I would love to get some fancies one day but we just don't have the room and it drops to 10 degrees and below in my tank during winter.

In answer to your question Lupin, I just used a packet of plain unflavoured gelatin for my gel food like it said in the recipe. I tried giving my goldfish veggie treats like lettuce, cucumber, and the occasional cooked pea, but they don't touch them. So they get frozen daphnia, bloodworms, brine shrimp and the occasional pinch of flakes.

I only tried gel food, because they don't really seem to be growing that much and on most forums everyone says how fast goldfish are supposed to grow under proper conditions. I just have this feeling I don't do enough water changes even though my tank is cycled and parameters are always spot-on. But my mum (and back) would kill me if I did them anymore frequently.


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Lilchiwolf: Gorgeous fish! If your pleco is a big species, I might suggest you swap him for a bristlenose pleo. They get along well with goldfish and only grow 4 inches.

LittleBettaFish: Crush some of your goldfish's favorite pelleted food and susbstitute it for half of the ingredients in the food (not including the gelatin). When I made medicated food out of gelatin and crushed fish food, my goldfish went nuts for it.
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Lilchiwolf: Gorgeous fish! If your pleco is a big species, I might suggest you swap him for a bristlenose pleo. They get along well with goldfish and only grow 4 inches.

LittleBettaFish: Crush some of your goldfish's favorite pelleted food and susbstitute it for half of the ingredients in the food (not including the gelatin). When I made medicated food out of gelatin and crushed fish food, my goldfish went nuts for it.
none of my LPS have that kind of pleco. Is there any other that I can look for? How about those armored plecos?

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@ Lupin: Thank you! I think he is very pretty. He has some faded orange color right under his dorsal fin and it looks like his belly is becoming orange/yellow as well.

And yes it was one of those evil Chinese algae eaters.....that I call golden "jerks" :P

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*Banner: Pink Marble HM Rose Male
*5 Ghost Shrimp

In the 135gal:
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*3 Khulie Loachs
*1 Zebra Spiny Eel
*1 Half Banded Eel
*1 Sail Fin Pleco
*1 Bichir
*4 Gouramis
*2 Koi Angels
*7 Ghost Shrimp

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none of my LPS have that kind of pleco. Is there any other that I can look for? How about those armored plecos?
Nope. All other species are known to get too big or latch onto goldfish and suck their slimecoat off. But pet stores can order in a species if you request it.
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@ Lupin: Thank you! I think he is very pretty. He has some faded orange color right under his dorsal fin and it looks like his belly is becoming orange/yellow as well.

And yes it was one of those evil Chinese algae eaters.....that I call golden "jerks" :P
Incompatible with goldfish. I remember having 6 of them latched on my fantail goldfish in my newbie days to my horror. I had to get them out immediately. They were doing a good imitation of the cleaner wrasse that at first, I appreciated what they were doing until I found the white patches indicating they actually were scraping him off alive.

And these twits can grow 8-10 inches in length. Extremely aggressive *beep*.

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