I also thought I should clear up some misinformation.
caferacermike had posted a lengthy one bashing some of the products that I feel need to be cleared up.
caferacermike wrote: |
Oceanic used to be the best commercial company around. Not so anymore. As of about October of 06 everything changed. Oceanic was bought out and moved to Lansing MI with All Glass.
Oceanic is actually still one of the highest quality tanks. All-Glass (a Franklin, Wisconsin based company) purchased Oceanic a few years ago. Oceanic was maintained in Texas and All-Glass in Wisconsin. They were kept as their individual entities. About a year and a half ago ( give or take), a Carson, California based company called Central Garden and Pet purchased All-Glass and Oceanic and also Kent Marine. The most recient purchase (but not by much) was Energy Savers Unlimited (makers of Coral Life Products).
The Oceanic name suffered a slight setback when it moved northward, but is beginning to make its come back. There are some origional Oceanic people that made the move, but unfortunately a lot did not want to relocate to Wisconsin. If was a great loss. The new crew with the old crew are coming up with some great stuff that will be seen in the coming months.
All Glass merging with Oceanic means one thing to me, that a larger company bought a name not way of doing business. When the Oceanic guys start asking for an expensive piece of equipment or are seen hand building each tank those practices will be shut down for more efficient, not better, methods.
Actually all of the All-Glass and Oceanic tanks are had made by people. The only thing that is automated is the cutting of the glass and the drilling of holes. Central Aquatics has no such plans to automate the tank assembly. We are actully experimenting with new techniques to make the tanks better.
caferacermike wrote: |
What it boils down to is a giant conglomerate pumping out brightly packaged poorly made crap for the masses, not the hobbyist or purist.
It is not good practice to assume anything. Actually Central Aquatics is in the middle of assembling a top notch R&D (research and development) team. Any defective product that I come accross we send the customer a prepaid return label (call tag) to have the product sent to the Product Validation Technician in R&D for analasys and testing. All problems are logged and any malfunction trend is being presented to the place of manufacture for correction. This is in efforts to eventually provide the best quality products on the market.
Don't get me wrong, I use a lot of products that are not made by the company I work for, and I would not switch from them. They work, and work well.
As for the slam on Kent products, what Kent Marine is doing is offering the consumer what they asked for. I have always been a big supporter of Kent products even when I was in retail sales. We also promoted Sea Chem. I can't knock Sea Chem as it is an awesome product, but a bit limited in what they do offer. With aquariums, not everyone is alike. Where one tank requires more the addition of a lot of magnesium (for use of discussion), another tank may over abundant. There is a place for everything offered by Kent.
As for the relabeling of the same product. It is only good buisness to cater to the masses. Kent doesn't hide the fact that the same contents have more than one label. The ingredients are on the container for anyone to see. It would be nice if the larger companies would cater to the diehard hobbyist, but the simple truth is that companies that limit their product, keep prices high, and eventually sucomb to being phased out. For the longest time Sea Chem was not the greatest product, but did some company alterations and turned themself arround. If you look at their history, they have come out with more and more products.
caferacermike, I was curious when the chart was published. The testing that was done to develop this chart could not have been done reciently as there is some data that does not match some of the recient data available.
Most salt mixes available use amonium salts in the mix. The ocean has amonium salts present in it. When mixed these salts will give about .25 to 0.5ppm ammonia readings. There are a select few that do not. Red sea used to be dried sea water, but in recient years it is now formulated in the same maner as the other available salts.
caferacermike Wrote: |
Ammonia is very deadly in a reef tank. The slightest amount can reak havoc.
Actually, most fish are sensitive to ammonia levels above about .3 to .5ppm ammonia. Other reef inhabitants are not so sensitive. The Zooxanthelae algae in the tissues of corals will utilize ammonia more efficiently than they can nitrite or nitrate. Ammonia is readily used by plant life. It is a good source of nitrogen. I have seen coral go thru 10.0 plus ammonia levels without any reaction. Even crustaceans did not react until levels approched 5 to 6ppm. I'm not saying to keep levels up, only that it is not as deadly as made out to be. It is best however to maintain as ballanced as an ecosystem as possible.
As I said before, I respect others opinions (caferacermike), and everyone has a right to their own. I just don't think it should be preached as gospel, only as an opinion. I also don't believe that one person can speak for the aquatic comunity, as there are equal opinions on both sides of the fence.
For anyone reading this post (sorry for the length), do not take any one persons word for it. Check arround on other boards, aquarium societies, and informational websites.
Compare information form a number of sources and make your own conclusions.
Happy aquarium keeping.