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post #41 of 80 Old 02-08-2009, 06:07 PM Thread Starter
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I wanted to give an update, even though its only a day later. Today is the first time since the "bad week" that the nem looks great even though the day lights are on. I just snapped these pics about 5 minutes ago:

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Still is obviously in recovery mode, but he isn't completely deflated during daylight. I had just fed him, so you can see the other fish swarming around trying to figure out how to grab the silversides . None are brave enough to dive into the tentacles of the anemone though 8)

Just as a reminder to anyone reading the thread: I don't pretend to know the best way to "cure" or heal the anemone, I'm just doing the things that I have learned through my research. I created this thread for two purposes: (1) to document the path that my anemone takes, and should I be successful*, provide a log of what I did so others can learn, and (2) to open my situation up to other people's input and advice! I still have plenty to learn, so i don't want anyone to hesitate to toss in their opinions and experience if they know something relevant.

The "read" count of this thread is pretty high, though there are only two or three people who post in it regularly, so I know other people are reading it! I just want to be sure that everyone knows they are welcome to contribute if they want!


* disclaimer: by "successul" above, I mean to return the anemone to good health from the brink of death, according to all apparent signs (long tentacles, good coloration, staying put, etc...). I know that true "success" in anemone keeping is measured by how many decades we can keep them alive.

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post #42 of 80 Old 02-09-2009, 01:51 AM
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actually I haven't changed the photoperiod at all since I added the new lights... my current cycle is:

Actinics on from 1:00 PM to 11:00 PM

Daylights on from 2:00 PM to 9:00 PM


Do you think I should bother reducing it at this point? The new lights have been on the tank for just over a week now... should I go ahead and ride it out, or would it be a good idea to reduce the daylight period down to 4 hours then start to step it back up (would it shock anything to all of a sudden drop the photoperiod)? The anemone really is starting to look a bit better, he deflates some during the day, but like clockwork each evening when the daylights turn off, he fills back up and looks great. For a day or two earlier this past week, I was really worried as he looked bad all day. But he seems to be turning it back around.
When ever you get new lights, replacements, or new livestock you need to lower the photo period. It does not shock the system of any corals or fish as in nature, they go many many days without light at a time. Since it has been so long since you've had the lighting that you have, it's probably not going to be worth it anymore. Thankfully it didn't affect anything as it could have (which will happen more quickly if you had really bad parameters).

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I wanted to give an update, even though its only a day later. Today is the first time since the "bad week" that the nem looks great even though the day lights are on. I just snapped these pics about 5 minutes ago:

Still is obviously in recovery mode, but he isn't completely deflated during daylight. I had just fed him, so you can see the other fish swarming around trying to figure out how to grab the silversides . None are brave enough to dive into the tentacles of the anemone though 8)

Just as a reminder to anyone reading the thread: I don't pretend to know the best way to "cure" or heal the anemone, I'm just doing the things that I have learned through my research. I created this thread for two purposes: (1) to document the path that my anemone takes, and should I be successful*, provide a log of what I did so others can learn, and (2) to open my situation up to other people's input and advice! I still have plenty to learn, so i don't want anyone to hesitate to toss in their opinions and experience if they know something relevant.

The "read" count of this thread is pretty high, though there are only two or three people who post in it regularly, so I know other people are reading it! I just want to be sure that everyone knows they are welcome to contribute if they want!


* disclaimer: by "successul" above, I mean to return the anemone to good health from the brink of death, according to all apparent signs (long tentacles, good coloration, staying put, etc...). I know that true "success" in anemone keeping is measured by how many decades we can keep them alive.
I'd say you're doing pretty good. if i have any true issues, i'm coming to you . You really are doing a great job and great work in the documentation of it all. It's getting use to the light finally so you'll see it out more as it becomes more accustom to it. You may want to drop the lights by 2hours for a few days and then put it back up, just in case it's getting too much light and isn't use to it yet.

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post #44 of 80 Old 02-11-2009, 07:06 PM Thread Starter
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Early update this week, I am moving into a new apartment this weekend (what a pain it's gonna be to move my SW tank! I've got two freshwaters as well, but I'm not worried about them at all). I won't be able to give pictures this weekend, so I'll update now as well as early next week once I'm settled in. I'm going to remove the current sandbed, and replace it with a good 4"-5" bed (hopefully, replacing the bed won't shock the tank too much... I've got 150 lbs of liverock in there, which I hope have enough bacteria to avoid a mini-cycle).

I also ordered an AquaC EV-180 skimmer, which should be in in a week or so, and will replace my current Octopus NW-150. Should be a significant upgrade for my skimmer, which will be great for the tank as a whole.

The anemone is still doing better, just took these pics 5 minutes ago, and he's a big as he's been yet, and it's "broad daylight" in the tank. I'm pretty sure the new lights were just intense for him at first, but he's getting used to them now.

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awesome.
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post #46 of 80 Old 02-11-2009, 11:15 PM
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I agree, awesome! Good luck with the move; I don't envy you. It sounds like alot of hard work.

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post #47 of 80 Old 02-11-2009, 11:34 PM
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i forgot to mention. get a fat tube and siphon out as much sand as possible, thats prob. the best bet.
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post #48 of 80 Old 02-11-2009, 11:46 PM Thread Starter
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yeah, i'm thinking it would be better to get rid of all sand currently in the tank, and replace with an entirely new bed (as opposed to trying to save this stuff, stirring it up all crazy in the process and mixing it with new sand). If you guys think it is OK to save some of the old sand, let me know...

My move plan is as follows (one day this weekend dedicated to moving the SW):

a) have 50 gallons new saltwater pre-mixed and ready to go at the new apartment
b) have all bags of new sand (rinsed) waiting at new apartment

1) remove all rock (except the one with the anemone on it), place into containers with water from tank
2) remove rock with anemone, place into container with water from tank
3) remove all fish, place into container with water from tank + air pump and heater
4) move all these containers to new apartment (within same complex, so not far drive)
5) drain rest of tank and sump, disassemble tank and equipment
6) move equipment to new apartment
7) remove all sand from empty tank
8) quickly clean tank and overflow corner, while it is disassembled
9) move tank and stand to new apartment, re-assemble overflow plumbing
10) put largest rocks in tank on bottom, then fill with sand
11) begin adding new water to tank, about 1/3 full
12) add rest of liverock to tank, and add water rock was transported in to the tank
13) fill tank with rest of water
14) add fish to tank, and put the rest of the transported (old) water into tank
15) replace equipment in/on sump and display, cleaning as I go
16) crank it back up!

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post #49 of 80 Old 02-23-2009, 10:44 PM Thread Starter
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long time no update... the move was such a pain last weekend, but I got it done, and haven't lost a single fish or invert from the tank. The RBTA is pretty unhappy with me from the move, I've also got it a little closer to the top (though off to the side of one of the Halides, so its not TOO too bright).

I think I took a step backwards as far as the recovery of the RBTA with this move, however if it can survive I think the tank is now set up for more long-term success and stability, and thus will benefit the anemone. I only plan one more move sometime in the next several years, and that's whenever I buy a house.

Attached is a pic of the anemone as the daylight period ends. The anemone is much fuller at night, suggesting to me that it still hasn't totally adjusted to the new lighting . I've stopped feeding every day, and now I feed it a couple of pieces of silverside every 3-5 days. I fed it daily for a while after receiving it, as it appeared to be starving, however by now it certainly can't be deprived of nutrition, so to avoid over-feeding it, I'm cutting back.

Below is a picture of the anemone, then a full tank shot of the new setup, and also a close-up of my new tiny brain coral!

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Hopefully your RBTA perks up; the tank looks amazing

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