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post #11 of 19 Old 05-02-2012, 06:07 PM Thread Starter
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Is anyone able to recommend then a variety of fish that are brightly coloured and easy to look after that would work well together in a 50 litre tank?

No longer considering the Angel fish or Gouramis so we are just discussing now what brightly coloured fish work well together in a 50 litre tank?

I don't necessarily want heaps of fish, just a group of different ones that work together well.

The water here in NZ is quite soft.

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post #12 of 19 Old 05-02-2012, 06:27 PM
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Did you look at the ember tetra, celestial pearl danios and mosquito rasbora? They'd go well with a school of pygmy cories. Probably the most colourful small fish we have in the hobby.

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Did you look at the ember tetra, celestial pearl danios and mosquito rasbora? They'd go well with a school of pygmy cories. Probably the most colourful small fish we have in the hobby.

Yes thanks I particularly like the Danios. Very cool. Also considering loaches in the aquarium as they seem like peaceful and community fish. The Black Ruby Barb are cool. Only problem is in the end I will also have to find the fish and options seem to be limited here in NZ so got to work with what is available. I know the loaches are as have seen them.

Am I right in thinking generally Cyprinids are one of the more easy going and community species of fish?

Can you tell me, when it recommends fish are in a group of 6 or more etc, does that mean 6 of the same variety or just 6 different fish in the tank that could be made up of various compatible species? For example Bleeding Heart Tetra which I like, "Should be kept in a group of at least six but preferably more"?

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They are easy. But the problem with small tanks is that fish like cyprinids are in general very active fish, and though they are small need lot's of room to swim around. For example the black ruby barb is recommended to have 30" of space to move, which is around 76cm.
Kuhli loaches would be good for your tank.

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They are easy. But the problem with small tanks is that fish like cyprinids are in general very active fish, and though they are small need lot's of room to swim around. For example the black ruby barb is recommended to have 30" of space to move, which is around 76cm.
Kuhli loaches would be good for your tank.

Ok, thanks for all your advice! Very grateful!

Can you tell me, when it recommends fish are in a group of 6 or more etc, does that mean 6 of the same variety or just 6 different fish in the tank that could be made up of various compatible species? For example Bleeding Heart Tetra which I like, "Should be kept in a group of at least six but preferably more"?
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Bleeding hearts get pretty huge as well. :/
Fish like tetra should be kept in groups of 6 of their own kind. Most small fish need to have others of their own kind to feel safe- in the wild they live in huge groups together. A lone tiny fish is insecure and feels like it's easy prey to anything.

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Bleeding hearts get pretty huge as well. :/
Fish like tetra should be kept in groups of 6 of their own kind. Most small fish need to have others of their own kind to feel safe- in the wild they live in huge groups together. A lone tiny fish is insecure and feels like it's easy prey to anything.

Ahh, bummer that they get big! Are there any tetras that you know are peaceful and stay relatively smallish? For a tank about 60 cm long, how many fish would you recommend in total and how many different but compatible species?
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Mosquito rasbora are a beautiful little fish! Great choice for your tank. You could keep a school of about 10 and then have a school of bottom-dwellers like loaches or corydoras. Cardinal tetra are another favorite of mine.

As to the hardiness of cyprinids, it depends. There are some hardy species like lambchop rasbora, and there are some more sensative speices like the dwarf loach. But most cyprinids get waay to large for your tank. There are some smaller fish that are suited for a 60 cm tank such as the emerald dwarf rasbora and dwarf rasbora. You also have a lot of options for small fish in the characins (tetra) like cardinal tetra, cochu, flame tetra, glowlight tetra, bloodfin tetra, and ember tetra (as Olympia suggested). Click on the shaded names to get pictures of them because what I think is pretty isn't always what others think is pretty.

For total number of species, you are only looking at one or two that can comfortably live in your tank because most all of the small fish need groups of 6 or more as Olympia explained. For two species that is going to be a minimum of 12 fish. That's a lot of fish especially considering most of the smaller species are also more sensitive.

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Some of the named characins will get too large, or be too active, or need too large a group--for a 50 litre tank which is about 13 gallons. Some of the quiet (non-active swimming) species like those in Paracheirodon would work, or some (but not all) of the Rosy clade in Hyphessobrycon like the Black Phantom, Roberts Tetra. These would be pushed but with live plants a small group will manage.

The "dwarf" species like Ember Tetra are better, or some of the colourful cyprinid fish Izzy mentioned.

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