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post #1 of 7 Old 06-20-2008, 07:58 AM Thread Starter
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Starting over on the 30 gallon high

I have the 30 gallon high, and I've been able to rapidly rehome all the fish that came with it from Mr. Ebay into my local fish club. I was going to set up a mbuna tank and let some juveniles grow out in that tank. But now I'm not really sold on the idea. I'm thinking I'll wait to do cichilds until I've got room for a really BIG tank so I can really do it up right.

So, I've got all this height on the tank, it's 24X25X12. What do you all think of a couple of angels (maybe one black, one koi?) heavily planted, a lot of cardinal tetras, and maybe some kind of cory? The tank is dead center in my living room, bigger than my TV and frankly, much more noticeable, so it really needs to be a show tank. Could I keep several species of tetra? or perhaps a school of tetras and a school of danios?

I'm thinking sand and something plant friendly mixed together for substrate, any suggestions?

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post #2 of 7 Old 06-20-2008, 08:25 AM
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Keep only one angelfish. You'll be better off starting with gold, zebra, marble or koi. You will want to avoid black strains as black angels are ridiculously challenging to keep being very sensitive to water conditions.

Cardinal tetras are fine choices. So are rummies, diamonds and kerri tetras (Inpaichthys kerri). Try 6 Corydoras trilineatus or Corydoras sterbai in that tank. Your other alternative is the Pangio kuhlii and plenty other species of Pangio should work similarly.

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I've been told that an angelfish will eat tetras once it matures.

However I'm currently putting together a tank for mainly tetras. Neons (maybe cardinals but I don't know if I like the looks of the shop that has them), rummy-nosed, and serpaes. I'm also going to have a school of panda cories. They're all small, schooling, and brightly colored so I'm expecting them to look very good in the tank together.

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I've been told that an angelfish will eat tetras once it matures.

However I'm currently putting together a tank for mainly tetras. Neons (maybe cardinals but I don't know if I like the looks of the shop that has them), rummy-nosed, and serpaes. I'm also going to have a school of panda cories. They're all small, schooling, and brightly colored so I'm expecting them to look very good in the tank together.
Yes, they do. Most tetras are their natural prey in the wild however cardinals are larger than neons which is why they suit better with angels than neons.

Are you planning to keep angels in your tank as well? Angels like warmer temperature so you must select your tankmates carefully. Panda cories are sub-tropical fish so a temp 80 degrees Fahrenheit and above will not help keep them alive for a long time. Serpaes are notoriously vicious fin nippers this are not suitable with long-finned specimens.

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No, no angels. I thought about it for a bit, until I learned they eat tetras.

Not trying to derail things, just speaking up with my support for the idea of a tetra tank.

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No, no angels. I thought about it for a bit, until I learned they eat tetras.

Not trying to derail things, just speaking up with my support for the idea of a tetra tank.
Ahh..Got it. Yes, it is true but as long as they don't fit in the mouths particularly the deep-bodied ones, then you have no reason to worry about.

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I like both the koi and marble varieties, I'll have to keep my eyes open for one that looks right to me.

I think the cardinal tetras will take up the mid and lower sections of the tank, the angel will be in the mid and upper level, the corries in the lower (obviously) do I really need anything else? Will these fish sufficiently populate the mid and upper levels of the tank? Since it's so high and in such a prominent place in the house, I want to be sure it's a good show tank, in addition to being a happy and healthy habitat.

I'll have to play around with the numbers and the plan a bit...

Now... substrate... I'm thinking play sand or something else natural and soft, cory friendly. Can you mix in flourite? ecocomplete?

On to plants... I'm thinking some of the narrow leaf mini swords, some of the omni-present java fern and java moss... any other suggestions? I want it to be pretty heavily planted.

Thanks for everything!

Ash

EDIT: I google like mad when I'm into researching something.. so here's the plant concept update: dwarf hairgrass, cabomba, maybe an amazon sword? or do I need to go with a dwarf amazon sword?
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