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post #1 of 7 Old 09-14-2011, 11:57 PM Thread Starter
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Ram Cichlids

So, I just recently discovered the amazingly beautiful Ram Cichlid. I have a 45 gallon tank and would love to get a few of them. I've done some internet research, but past experience has proved to me, very obviously, that knowledge is power. So I'm posting looking for not only addition information, but to clarify that the information I've already read is correct.

So, I've read that they don't get very large compared to other South American Cichlids, only about 4", and that a 45 gallon tank is plenty big for a few of them? I'm trying to be more conscientious about selecting fish, because I've made the mistake of putting fish that grow "massive" in this 45 gallon tank I have, due to lack of proper guidance.

I've also read that they're pretty docile, and get frightened easily, that same species tanks are best, but if I choose tank mates for them, I should choose slow swimming "smaller" fish. But I'm wonder if I would possibly mix them with an Angelfish? Or a Parrot Cichlid?

Also, what perimeters should I be looking for the water?

Thanks in advance for any advice you can give to another Cichlid lover :)
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post #2 of 7 Old 09-15-2011, 12:16 AM
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German Blue rams are my favorites!

I had them one time when i first began fish keeping, sadly i did not practice quarantining to watch for disease. About a week after I purchased them (the 4 i chose from had literally just been unpacked from a shipment to the store) they must have had some got disease from the store water i got them from and it wiped out my angels and the GBR's with some nasty cichlid disease I tried to battle.

I would love to eventually get them again some time.

My only advice is to make sure you have a quaratine setup and it will save you from massive devasation like i had.

I would love to add some GBRs to my Discus tank soon though.
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post #3 of 7 Old 09-15-2011, 12:18 AM Thread Starter
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Yeah I always ask about quarantining, how long the fish had been in the store, how well they eat, etc.
I'm really excited to get some, and I hear they're great with a lot of community fish too. Would love to mix them with some rainbowfish and rasboras.
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post #4 of 7 Old 09-15-2011, 12:30 AM
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Hello there are two different types of rams, the bolivian ram and the blue ram. You can read more information on them in the profiles section here. You can find the link at the top of the page second tab from the left, or click on the shaded name.

What are the dimensions on your 45 gallon tank. If it is under 48 inches long than you definitly do not want more than one male in the tank. You could do a male and female, but they do need to have enough space to be able to have their own areas. In the wild they actually live on their own except for when reproducing. The profile will give you more information on them. With a Bolivian ram you could keep them with Angels, provided that your tank is at least 48 inches long and also depending on the height of your tank. Because of the shape of angels they are taller than they are long they need to have a tank that provides enough height. Also with angels, they are a shoaling fish and need to be kept in groups of at least 5.

By parrot cichlid are your refering to the blood parrot cichlid, or another type?

With the bolivian rams you could add a mid/upper level fish. This will help the rams to feel more secure. I see my bolivan rams swimming around my tank all the time, and when it is feeding time they are at the top of the tank with every one else to get their fair share of food.

Blue rams tend to be more sensitive in the water parameters they need to be kept in and need to be kept in warmer water than what most other tropical fish are kept in. This can make it more difficult in choosing tank mates for them. Again the profiles will explain this.
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Yeah I was never actually told to quarantine by any stores, i had to find out by the internet lol

But yes when i first introduced them (before the disease they carried in destroyed everything) they looked beautiful and got along fantastically with the others. The only thing they do not like from my experience is not enough room for another pair. I bought two pairs, and they were constantly facing off with each other for territory. I would suggest one pair for your 45 gallon tank and they will do amazing
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Hello there are two different types of rams, the bolivian ram and the blue ram. You can read more information on them in the profiles section here. You can find the link at the top of the page second tab from the left, or click on the shaded name.

What are the dimensions on your 45 gallon tank. If it is under 48 inches long than you definitly do not want more than one male in the tank. You could do a male and female, but they do need to have enough space to be able to have their own areas. In the wild they actually live on their own except for when reproducing. The profile will give you more information on them. With a Bolivian ram you could keep them with Angels, provided that your tank is at least 48 inches long and also depending on the height of your tank. Because of the shape of angels they are taller than they are long they need to have a tank that provides enough height. Also with angels, they are a shoaling fish and need to be kept in groups of at least 5.

By parrot cichlid are your refering to the blood parrot cichlid, or another type?

With the bolivian rams you could add a mid/upper level fish. This will help the rams to feel more secure. I see my bolivan rams swimming around my tank all the time, and when it is feeding time they are at the top of the tank with every one else to get their fair share of food.

Blue rams tend to be more sensitive in the water parameters they need to be kept in and need to be kept in warmer water than what most other tropical fish are kept in. This can make it more difficult in choosing tank mates for them. Again the profiles will explain this.
Thanks so much for the info! After reading their profiles, I think I'm looking at a male/female pair of Blue Ram Cichlid. I keep my water at about 82 degrees, so it's already slightly warmer for them, which I read they need. Thanks again!
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post #7 of 7 Old 09-17-2011, 04:16 PM
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You seem set to go. For tankmates (which they absolutely should have) just remember the high temp; not all shoaling characins, etc. can manage at 82F. The temp range is noted in the fish profiles.

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Something we all need to remember: The fish you've acquired was quite happy not being owned by you, minding its own business. If you’re going to take it under your wing then you’re responsible for it. Every aspect of its life is under your control, from water quality and temperature to swimming space. [Nathan Hill in PFK]
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