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new mbuna tank! thoughts & stocking help?
Old 07-20-2014, 09:44 PM   #1
 
new mbuna tank! thoughts & stocking help?

new to keeping african cichlids!
i just recently set up a new 56gallon setup with a few currently in it.
i have been keeping fish for almost 4 years or so but have always kept smaller, community fish and aquatic plants.
this tank currently has a fluval 306 and a fluval 105 filter.
currently housing:
4x afra cobue
4x rusty cichlid


i was wondering what other species you think i should add to my tank!
ive attached a photo of my current set-up. what do you guys think?

what would YOU add to the tank?
thanks guys.
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Old 07-21-2014, 08:09 AM   #2
 
I love your driftwood! I think the set-up looks good! I'll direct a more cichlid-oriented member here to help you with stocking. She'll be along shortly.
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Old 07-21-2014, 11:02 AM   #3
 
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Ahhh!

I typed up a great response then hit delete ..argh !! I'll give you a short version then expand lAter lol

So as I'm sure researching you've found mbuna are best with mostly if not all mbuna . I hope your rusty's pump out a tank boss ! They turn brilliant purple when they are the dominant fish !

You're options for additions are pretty darn open within mbuna fish. White labs (tumbii reef) would be very pretty to add to your colors , chailosi I think would look nice and work well , white top hara's are super cool ( very mean though but then again your afras may be pretty mean as well and it's ok.. That's just mbuna being mbuna ).

Looks like decent filtration 👍👍

You may want to consider a power head to beef up the flow as they are from highly turbulent waters . Keeps them from being absolutely murderous lol.

They are mostly herbivore however NLS cichlid pellets have proteins they can digest . Fresh zucchini clipped on the aquarium walls will be well appreciated .i also add a few types of saltwater herbivore frozen fish foods. And some other ransoms

Have you added salts yet ?

They are from one of the highest salt content freshwater lakes in the world and really do best with salt. Not other PH chemicals ! For my 72g African tank the ratios I've found to be ideal are 4table spoons Epsom give or take , aquarium salt as directed by the box , and 1 cup(or a little more ) of marine salt . Then on water change days I only replace the percentage if those salts I took out calculated by the percentage of water I changed. Speaking of.. I need to change the water for my Africans right now lol.. They're looking like they're in a bad mood .. Twerps ❤️


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Old 07-21-2014, 03:31 PM   #4
 
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Ahhh!

I typed up a great response then hit delete ..argh !! I'll give you a short version then expand lAter lol

So as I'm sure researching you've found mbuna are best with mostly if not all mbuna . I hope your rusty's pump out a tank boss ! They turn brilliant purple when they are the dominant fish !

You're options for additions are pretty darn open within mbuna fish. White labs (tumbii reef) would be very pretty to add to your colors , chailosi I think would look nice and work well , white top hara's are super cool ( very mean though but then again your afras may be pretty mean as well and it's ok.. That's just mbuna being mbuna ).

Looks like decent filtration 👍👍

You may want to consider a power head to beef up the flow as they are from highly turbulent waters . Keeps them from being absolutely murderous lol.

They are mostly herbivore however NLS cichlid pellets have proteins they can digest . Fresh zucchini clipped on the aquarium walls will be well appreciated .i also add a few types of saltwater herbivore frozen fish foods. And some other ransoms

Have you added salts yet ?

They are from one of the highest salt content freshwater lakes in the world and really do best with salt. Not other PH chemicals ! For my 72g African tank the ratios I've found to be ideal are 4table spoons Epsom give or take , aquarium salt as directed by the box , and 1 cup(or a little more ) of marine salt . Then on water change days I only replace the percentage if those salts I took out calculated by the percentage of water I changed. Speaking of.. I need to change the water for my Africans right now lol.. They're looking like they're in a bad mood .. Twerps ❤️


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thanks for the reply! & thank you for the warm welcomes! thanks flint! im glad you like it and said that; i wasnt sure if we should keep the driftwood or not haha

i dont have any salt yet but i plan on grabbing some today or within the next day or 2. all my fish seem to be staying over on the darker side of the tank (lava rock)...they arent really interested in my expensive texas holey rock.....hmm....so far ive seen VERY little aggression from either of them towards each other..which has surprised me, i was expecting chaos. is this just possibly because they are all new to the tank and or are juveniles?

i want to add either: yellow tailed acei, saulosi, perlmutt lab, estherae or a chewere...i really like the chewere but do you think i can add him to the mix without issues? also, do you think i could add one yellow lab into the mix; i really like their color but find them overrated...would like one added to the tank if possible.
you mean a powerhead filter in the tank at the top? yeah, i was thinking about picking one of those up. also for an airator what would you recommend?
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Old 07-22-2014, 02:13 AM   #5
 
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new mbuna tank! thoughts & stocking help?

If I'm not mistaken the chewere type is also a metriaclima mbuna .. Which is what the estherae is .... Just different morph . Either IMO with proper set up shall do fine

Yellow labs ? You can try those too . They are a bit less aggressive which actually is not a good thing in a mbuna tank however totally doable .

Acei are absolutely stunning and if you a male one he mAy be fine .they are more docile but IMO worth the risk


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If I'm not mistaken the chewere type is also a metriaclima mbuna .. Which is what the estherae is .... Just different morph . Either IMO with proper set up shall do fine

Yellow labs ? You can try those too . They are a bit less aggressive which actually is not a good thing in a mbuna tank however totally doable .

Acei are absolutely stunning and if you a male one he mAy be fine .they are more docile but IMO worth the risk


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awesome. currently my tank is actualy quite docile and ive seen little aggression from any of them. im hoping my next species will encourage them to come out a little bit more as they are rather shy right now. not sure if its because its a new environment and they arent used to the tank yet or if its just because they are juveniles; or both.
i got the cichlid salt and added it last night.
i want to add another species soon as i dont want to wait too long before i add more fish but at the same time i dont want to completely stock the tank right off the bat. i may wait a few more days before considering adding anything else. do you think this is wise or should i add some more to the mix asap to not risk any aggression in the future when i do add more fish?
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Old 07-24-2014, 09:08 AM   #7
 
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It's good to have them all together from young . Mine have almost all been together for 2 yrs since they were juvies .. Only 2-3 exceptions . And mine while they do cause a ruckus when trying to shift tank boss are pretty good together . You'll see more of the wildness as they adjust to the new tank .. They are young but they'll still come out soon I imagine .. Unless there's a water issue like the tank isn't cycled .
The salt should make them happier .. However I'm not a fan of most things called "cichlid salts " .. I'm sure some are legit but most just are to get your PH/KH high and not actually replicate the environment they like. However I wouldn't go switching things all the time either .. Maybe slowly switch over to actual salts in a few months . However if they come out and start acting happy and you see good health and no PH or KH swings then stick with what works 😉

I feel if all is in order and your water isn't showing ammonia or nitrites then go for it .. Add some newbies ! And enjoy !


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