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post #1 of 14 Old 12-03-2011, 09:40 PM Thread Starter
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New cichlids what are they doing?

Hey, I just got three free electric yellow cichlids and one is about three inches long and the other is about 2.5 and I have them in a 25 gallon with anothe electric yellow cichlid that is a baby, .5 inches, and the bigger one seemed to have been chacing the smaller one like if it was territorial and I read that this is not like them. No they are not going in circle but I want to know what is going on. Seems like the bigger one is trying to establish territory or dominence in the tank. Also how do you tell weather these are male or female? read a bit about this but not sure.. help meehh
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post #2 of 14 Old 12-03-2011, 10:07 PM
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Yellow labs are territorial all cichlid are heck all animals are. They are considered mild for a mbuna but are very aggressive in regards to typical community fish. Sexing them at this age is impossible but the best way to sex them is venting them. The tank is to small which is why you are running into issues. These guys need bare minimum a 3ft tank and need to be kept in groups to disperse aggression.

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post #3 of 14 Old 12-04-2011, 06:30 AM Thread Starter
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Ok, thaks for letting me know. I read that they can be determined by sex in that the males have false eggsacks or somthing like that in there anal fin, is this true and acurate because if so I have two males.
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post #4 of 14 Old 12-04-2011, 07:30 AM
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They are called "eggspots" and they are used in the courting practice. This is not an accurate way to sex mbuna because females can get it too.

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post #5 of 14 Old 12-04-2011, 09:42 AM Thread Starter
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Ok thanks. when they are small and if it happens to be that they are male and female will they chace eashother for terretory even thought they are oposite sex?
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post #6 of 14 Old 12-04-2011, 12:09 PM
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Yes male and female will chase each other for dominance. Males will also chase females relentlessly when they are sexually mature in order to get them to breed. That is why you must keep mbuna in a ratio of 1male to every2-3females so no one female gets harassed to death.

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post #7 of 14 Old 12-04-2011, 12:28 PM
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You could do a higher ratio, say 1 male to 5 or 6 females, which would help even more. Please read up on how to set up mbuna territories and caves, stocking density, water requirements, filtration needs, etc. These are very different than your typical tropical community!

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post #8 of 14 Old 12-04-2011, 02:46 PM Thread Starter
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Well I dont think they like each other but I still can tell if they are male or female. I tried venting but they look to small to tell. Both have the false egg-spot and both seem to have the black stripes nut not super black just like a thin stripe on the highter part of the top fin. I guess I will have to wait and see. Turns out that the new tank I got is not a 25 but a 29 and I also have two other cichlids, one that seems to be a white lab cichlids just like the other two but white, and a brown one with striped going vertical on its sides. Can the white lab cichlid breed with a electric yellow lab cichlid and if so, what color will the fry turn out to be? (not sure if the white lab is a female or male either but just curious)
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post #9 of 14 Old 12-04-2011, 07:39 PM
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I can't know for sure what species you have exactly but many mbuna will crossbreed which is why you have to be careful picking tankmates. 29 gallons is still on 30" long and not enough for a mbuna tank. I would recommend a 55 gallon for mbuna community tank. A 36" 30long may work for milder smaller species. Hybrid mbuna are really frowned upon in the hobby because they make it impossible to identify the pure breeds. If you get fry from these fish either do not sell or distribute them or cull them.

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post #10 of 14 Old 12-04-2011, 08:08 PM Thread Starter
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I am not planning on breeding them I just wanted to know if they could and what I would get. I am going to get rid of the other two and then raising the small one and selling him just to keep both of the bigger electric cichlids. Do you think that I could keep the two electric cichlids in there by themself in the 29 gallon?
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