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Old 02-02-2010, 01:31 AM   #11
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This should turn out to be a BEAUTIFUL tank!!!!!!! I cannot wait for YOU to get started haha :)
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Old 02-02-2010, 02:07 AM   #12
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I simply love this thread, your tank is going to look great. Please post pics when your done!
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Old 02-02-2010, 10:40 AM   #13
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i too am excited to see this build!! it will be a magnificant display!! i have always waned discus but my water is way too hard to keep them healthy
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Old 02-02-2010, 04:33 PM   #14
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Thanks for the help, all of you. I just subscribed to this thread :) Just behind my house is a forest/swamp. There are tons of aquatic plants and frogs, bugs,etc. I noticed that in a lot of the little ponds there was these floating light green plant and I am pretty sure they are called duck weed or duck grass. Could I take some of those and add them to my tank (obviously I would have to wait till summer)? So in the wild cardinals are sort of like salmon, the adults spawn and die, therefore leaving the fry to hatch for the next season and this cycle continues? If there are a lot of plants is it possible that some cardinal fry will be hidden in the plants and maybe even survuve to adulthood? I know I said 8 cardinals, but the more the better. Obviously not too many of them because that would make the tank overstocked even though they have a small bioload. I was thinking more like 10-12 of them. At my LFS the cardinals are more expensive than the neons, why is that? I know cardinals like warmer water and their colours are slightly different, but that wouldnt affect the price would it. Regarding the discus, this may seem like adumb question but does it matter whether the discus are all different colour strains? I wanted to have a mix of reds, blues, turquoises, browns, etc. I know brown sounds unappealing but they do look pretty nice. I know the pet store i am getting them from dont use hormones on their discus. It is a wonderful 2 floor store. They have like 15 aisles of fish tanks full of fish, one aisle being only discus. Would adding some adults and juvies cause a problem or problems? If I add them all together do I have to quarantine them? I am an endless pit of questions arent I. Je m'excuse pour tout les inconvéniences que je t'ai rapportés :)

BTW I think I will invest in an RO unit :)
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Old 02-02-2010, 05:30 PM   #15
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Dylan, the floating plant may be northern duckweed. It is as its name suggests, a weed, in a tank. Most aquatic plants in Canada will not do well long-term in an aquarium that is heated. There is of course the real risk of introducing parasites and worse with plants collected outdoors. Fish diseases, bacteria, whatever. I know its tempting and 20 years ago I tried some myself, but unsuccessfully.

Cardinals aren't like salmon, by annual fish is meant fish that only live one year due to, in this case, limited food source for them, so they die. Cardinals are extremely prolific and very widespread. And more expensive because they are wild caught (some tank-raised are now appearing, though I avoid them as they are not as hardy) and of course more beautiful according to many and in greater demand, and the fact that they don't live very long in most aquaria means aquarists are always buying more. Neons are really not all that easy either.

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Old 02-02-2010, 05:42 PM   #16
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In regards to the duckweed, there are other similar sorts of plants you can get that will work nicely as floating cover. Water lettuce is very easy to grow, for example. So easy, in fact, that I'd encourage you to really make the decision as to whether or not you want your entire tank's surface covered in it or not, as this stuff grows like crazy.
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Old 02-02-2010, 06:09 PM   #17
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Ok so no to wild plants... :)
If discus start to breed, can I leave the breeding pair in the tank? Can two different colours breed together?
I dont know anything about RO units, can you please briefly explain what they do and how to use them. Do they go in the tank? How do you set a pH with an RO unit? I am as lost right now as I was about aquarium plants around a month ago :) (aaahhhh gooodd tiiimmmeeesss lol)
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Old 02-02-2010, 07:16 PM   #18
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Discus are very sociable, especially for cichlids. Others can correct me if I'm wrong but I believe you can keep a colony of discus and have them breed without the territorial fighting that's common with other types of cichlids.

Smaller RO units are usually a stand-alone type of thing that're usually used with large buckets or trash bins. I believe a typical RO unit will result in water that's neutral pH and with zero hardness, meaning the pH would be extremely (perhaps "dangerously" would be a better word) easy to change.
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Old 02-03-2010, 06:50 AM   #19
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Most people prefer to keep them in colonies. If some pair off they won't claim too much of the tank just enought though to raise thier fry. Yes different color morphs will breed. They don't discriminate. You can still do a planted tank just buy a couple hardy aquarium plants. I would reccomend java fern, java moss, anubias, and jungle vals. They are slow growers but once they do fill in the tank, it will look amazing. Also they don't require as much light as other plants do.
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Old 02-03-2010, 05:04 PM   #20
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I was planning on making it a blackwater tank, using driftwood and peat moss. If I use peat moss, do I just put it in the tank or mix it in with the substrate, or do I put the peat moss in the filter, or somewhere else? If I want to dye with the peat moss and driftwood: For the filter, if the carbon is inside the blue fibre thing can I cut open the blue thing take the inside out, clean off the inside plastic and the blue thing of carbon, remove all of the carbon and put the blue thing back on with elastics?

To be clear, the RO is a completely seperate unit than the tank and I filter tap water through it to get super soft neutral water that can then easily become acidic?

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