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post #1 of 11 Old 05-25-2008, 10:46 PM Thread Starter
Need info on some cichlids (apistos)

I found this picture of an Apistogramma Cacatuoides "triple red". This fish is incredible! Can someone tell me a little about it? Would a trio work in my planted 28 gallon with a school of cardinal tetras? Could I add anything else (like ottos or my platies)?

I have very soft water with a high ph. I'm thinking that the ph from the tap is about 7.4-8, but the ph goes up to 8.2 in my tank. Can't figure out why. Could these cichlids do well in this water, or would I need to adjust it?

What kind of maintanance do these fish need to thrive?

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post #2 of 11 Old 05-25-2008, 10:53 PM
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Those fish require lower pH than what you've got there, and if it were me, I wouldn't risk spending that much money on a gamble. I would think about ways to lower your pH before you bought them.

From what I've read though, cardinals/neons make perfect tankmates and I don't see why Oto's wouldn't work. Not sure about platies, since they generally prefer harder water and higher pH.

I agree though...great looking fish.
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post #3 of 11 Old 05-25-2008, 11:29 PM Thread Starter
Ya, I definatly don't want to risk it. What's the highest pH I could keep them healthy in??

About how much do they cost?
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http://liveaquaria.com/product/prod_...64&pcatid=1664

$60, and those are only double reds.
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post #5 of 11 Old 05-26-2008, 12:09 AM Thread Starter
Sounds like a birthday thing. :D I still want them... if I can adjust my pH.
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James, did you test your rocks and substrate for change in pH?

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post #7 of 11 Old 05-26-2008, 01:02 AM Thread Starter
The substrate is two types of small natural gravel with a layer of laterite underneath. I thought that both bags of gravel said it was pH nuetral, but I guess it would be stupid not to check it anyway. In an earlier post I asked if laterite had any effect on pH, but no responses yet.

How do I check the gravel? Check some water straight out of the faucet, and then check it again after the gravel has been in it a while??
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The substrate is two types of small natural gravel with a layer of laterite underneath. I thought that both bags of gravel said it was pH nuetral, but I guess it would be stupid not to check it anyway. In an earlier post I asked if laterite had any effect on pH, but no responses yet.

How do I check the gravel? Check some water straight out of the faucet, and then check it again after the gravel has been in it a while??
Get some of the gravel and place in the bucket. Leave it there overnight and test the water afterwards. Check your tapwater as well and compare the results.

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post #9 of 11 Old 05-26-2008, 01:12 AM Thread Starter
Sounds good, will do. I think I'd like to upgrade to Eco-Complete anyway. Guess it's time to get a job. This whole fish thing is expensive...
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Sounds good, will do. I think I'd like to upgrade to Eco-Complete anyway. Guess it's time to get a job. This whole fish thing is expensive...
Kate (Amphitrite) uses Eco-complete. I am sure she won't object to telling you whether this can change the pH or not although I haven't heard from her anything problematic about her decorations. I have never used that kind of substrate so I am not the right person to answer that.

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