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post #11 of 13 Old 12-11-2012, 09:06 AM
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Posting pictures is quite easy.

In the message box, click "go advanced", this will bring up another box. Look for a little smiley face, next to that is a paperclip, click on the paperclip, it will open another box, browse to where the image you want to upload is located, provided it is not too big, then click upload.

If you have the image stored on a free hosting site such as flickr or photobucket (two popular choices), you can directly link the picture from that by providing the address of the picture.

We also have an option to add pictures of your tanks to your profile. To do this, at the top of the page (Blue Bar), is AQUARIUM LOG, click on that and it will allow you add details about your tank, keep a record of water parameters.


I agree with what the others have posted here, you need a larger tank for these fish and even still may have some issues.

I would highly recommend you keep the Frontosa in a tank alone, they can become stressed in the presence of mbuna (yellow labs, demansoni). The demansoni is by far the most aggressive fish you have, they NEED a large group of 1 male to at least 6-8 females to stop aggression issues. They hate other fish with a passion and will constantly nip and fight in such a small tank.

BristleNose plecos also work well with Africans although the synodontis are much better and usually cost a little more.

The other users have posted some good responses here and the information they have provided is correct with ONE EXCEPTION. DO NOT GO BY 1" PER GALLON, this is outdated and is extremely unreliable., it gives a good rough estimate but large waste producing, aggressive fish in a small tank = bad news.

Welcome to the forum and we look forward to seeing your pictures.

10g Fry / Hospital / QT tank (as needed)

75g Saltwater Reef, Ocellaris Clownfish, Lyretail Antias (baby), Lemon damsel, Longtail Fairy Wrasse, purple dottyback, snails, crabs and a few LPS corals.

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post #12 of 13 Old 12-11-2012, 09:26 AM
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Thank you for clarifying the 1" of fish per gallon of water rule. You are correct, it is outdated but a simple way to explain to someone new to the hobby. The more complicated explanation, i.e. total water volume mass and total water displacement of the fish (such as a long skinny fish, vs a long fat fish) is hard to understand and calculate and I am not that much of a scientific geek.

Regarding "Large waste producing, aggressive fish in a small tank = bad news" absolutely true. I think the confusion comes in when folks look at YouTube vid's for example and see tanks filled with mixed African cichlids that are overstocked. Overstocking is crucial to these aggressive fish, but so is over-filtering and providing lots of water surface agitation and hiding places. We had different species of Africans in the same tanks to begin with and it was an everyday war going on somewhere. I was constantly moving fish from one tank to another or to quarantine tanks. That is why we decided to change everything around and just have all males, and a Hap tank, a Peacock tank and our Tanganyikan tank only holds Tangs. Even then, as fish mature, a shy fish can become boisterous one day. Today I have to move a Benga peacock from that tank to the Hap tank for awhile because Mr. Benga has become a terrorist and hopefully he will calm down with the Haps. I will stop rambling away... ya'll have a great day :)

ps... we also learned the hard way that when stocking it does help to know about the fish you are selecting. Mbuna are the most difficult fish to stock because of their known aggression. We also learned that Aulonocara Jacobfreibergi can't stand each other so we have one in the Peacock tank and had to put the other one in with the Haps. It is best to select fish that do not look alike, which is kinda hard to do with Haps because so many of them are blue. It has never failed in our tanks that with fish that look alike, even tho they are different species of fish, one will be the king of the tank and will color down the rest of them. It is not easy to get a good mix, it has taken us about a year. But once you do, all the work and effort is a beautiful thing to see :)

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post #13 of 13 Old 12-11-2012, 02:14 PM Thread Starter
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Thanks Tazman for the picture information and all the all the other suggestion. I also thank all the other and apriciate that ther are people like you willing to help others like me new in the fish keeping hobbie.
As I said befor, it started with my 7 year old son wanting a fish and ended up with a 35 gallon fish tank. Now I got hooked and feeling sorry that I have not bought a bigger tank.
Unfortunatly my son and I got hooked to all the fish and there is no turning back. As someone said some learn the hardway which seems that I am one of them.
So far the fish look very healty and getting along with each other perfectly. It may be becouse thay have a lot of hiding places but in the future when they get bigger ther will be some problems.
Unfortunatly I have not got another space for another fish tank becouse that would solve my problem which so far I don't have.
Wish me luck. Who knows maybe we'l descover that with some luck this comunity of cichlids will learn to live together as brothers ans sissters
Thanks again
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