Long story short I got some blue turqs, sick ones, and had to get a bunch of replacements ones and a whole lot of hassle. Anyway, we have 4 left that are doing well. I have got them to accept hand fed food so that's pretty exciting. I find that if I hand feed them a bit first then they don't pay attention to the pecking order and everyone gets an equal amount. After I put the rest of the food in then the pecking order comes into play again. I am quite hopeful that these guys will get to be big beautiful fish.