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post #1 of 5 Old 07-27-2010, 09:07 PM Thread Starter
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Match-making adult angels

My first attempt to match-make a male and a female has failed. The male ate all the eggs the female laid. They grew up together in a group of juveniles, but both have their own significant others. I thought they should be in love instead. I tried to create the romance. Obviously, it didn't quite work out. Has anyone ever tried and succeed?
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post #2 of 5 Old 08-18-2010, 05:41 PM
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I have never tried before but i am going to do so in about 20 days i just need angles. In ur letter what are u trying to say? are you giving them away or what.
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post #3 of 5 Old 08-18-2010, 06:12 PM
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If this was their first spawning (young fish), it is common to have the parents eat the eggs. I have read that this can occur several times before they finally manage to carry things through. Don't know why, it is something that occurs with tank-raised fish (which most angels in stores are), but not wild-caught fish.

Also, if there are other fish in the tank and the parents suspect they will lose their eggs/fry, they themselves will turn and eat them before the other fish can.

So, you may be OK with a few more attempts. Angels will re-spawn very quickly, Lisa could tell you how soon if she sees this, she recently went through several spawnings in a few weeks with her pair when the eggs were eaten by other fish.

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post #4 of 5 Old 08-19-2010, 04:05 AM
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If this was their first spawning (young fish), it is common to have the parents eat the eggs.
Perfect answer! +10

I'm expecting my future Discus pairs to do the same.

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post #5 of 5 Old 08-19-2010, 10:08 AM
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Yes, yes. I can vouch. I didnt even know mine were a pair until I walked over to the tank to feed one day and saw a clutch of eggs on a leaf. I was shocked! I did see some pre-spawning activity but didn't realize this is what it was and grew concerned that they were suddenly fighting. A few days later, the eggs appeared. The eggs only made it to the wiggler stage (about Day 3) until my Rummynose Tetra made a nice meal of them. As soon as the female saw this, she quickly ate the remaining eggs. As Byron mentioned, if the parents feel any kind of threat toward their eggs/fry, they will eat them before any other fish can.

About 2-3 weeks after the my first spawn, I came home from work to more eggs. There were very few and I quickly realized they had just started to spawn. I quickly grabbed my camera and took a 7 minute video of the female laying the eggs and the male fertilizing them. That is when I learned for sure what the real sexes of each Angel were (You can see my vidoe under the Photography and Videos section called, "VIDEO: Angelfish Actively Spawning. I don't know how to get the link over here). I assumed the one was female from the prior spawn because she was the one protecting the eggs the majority of the time, but this 2nd spawn confirmed it. I actually witnessed the eggs coming out of her papilla. It was quite fascinating and caught that on video as well. The eggs made it all the way through to the free-swimming stage in a community tank. I was amazed. The parents did an amazing job protecting their eggs and fry. They were free-swimming for 2 days until the tetras got a good angle on the fry and started to take them out. The mom must have felt overwhelmed and ate the remaining fry.

Now, about 2 weeks later, I am constantly seeing pre-spawning behavior once again. The female is getting plump again and I believe it is only a matter of time before I see another clutch of eggs.
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