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post #91 of 110 Old 07-09-2012, 11:48 PM
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brine shrimp is good but add some crushed flakes as well.

Some fish are stronger than others so the cycling will effect them in different ways. Was the filter seeded before it went into the tank? If not then the bacteria are likely still populating it.

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post #92 of 110 Old 07-09-2012, 11:52 PM Thread Starter
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it was not seeded. ok i will feed some flake too. thanks!

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post #93 of 110 Old 07-30-2012, 04:19 PM Thread Starter
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ok taz, my tank is in code red again

BABIES
1) my acei female gave birth AGAIN yesterday. is there any sort of birth control for these things? so, we scooped her out and put her in our other 10g tank with the month old fry for her to spit out the newborn fry. then, we left her in there overnight to spit them all night, and i moved her in the 55g this morning. now, she is resting on the bottom of the tank taking really big breaths. she is also very darkly colored. is she ok? in the process of catching the holding female, i sort of rearranged the rocks to catch her, which leads me to my next problem:

STRESS
2) So, my fish are freaking out about this mayhem and hiding in other spots. it was really late last night when i rearranged stuff, so i put some of the rocks back, but in different places. when i woke up this morning, i noticed the dominant male in my tank, is almost completely pale, and half of his head is pitch black! he looks kind of like two face from batman. i learned that these are stress marks. in fact, i think that all of my fish had one or two small dots on the underside of their mouths, but i also assumed this was part of their coloration. how do i make them go away? and now, my final problem:

FRY
3) putting newborns in with month old fry was a mistake. the bigger ones are taking all the food. i wanted to relieve the mother of her babies, and this was the only thing i had. now, i have found a small breeder box in my closet, but i have no way of separating the newborns from the big fry. also, the big ones are eating all the food, and i have a feeling the newborn fry are starving. i was actually wanting the parents to take care of this new batch, but the other fish kept bullying the mom and eating the fry that she "coughed" up. it was pretty brutal. now, what can i do?

sorry for the long post. there's just so many things going on in my head. please respond ASAP.

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post #94 of 110 Old 07-30-2012, 08:14 PM Thread Starter
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oh god. my female is in big trouble now. she is just lying sideways on the floor, occasionally moving her fins. she can swim for a short period of time, but it is definitely not the million miles an hour she is capable of (more like the speed of a gourami) and she was just sitting near the filter. i scooped her up and put her in a convalescent home with an air pump, but i don't think she's going to make it. what happened? is there any last resort i can take?

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ok taz, my tank is in code red again

BABIES
1) my acei female gave birth AGAIN yesterday. is there any sort of birth control for these things? so, we scooped her out and put her in our other 10g tank with the month old fry for her to spit out the newborn fry. then, we left her in there overnight to spit them all night, and i moved her in the 55g this morning. now, she is resting on the bottom of the tank taking really big breaths. she is also very darkly colored. is she ok? in the process of catching the holding female, i sort of rearranged the rocks to catch her, which leads me to my next problem:
Only birth control is remove the female completely. They will keep breeding if they are happy in the tank
STRESS
2) So, my fish are freaking out about this mayhem and hiding in other spots. it was really late last night when i rearranged stuff, so i put some of the rocks back, but in different places. when i woke up this morning, i noticed the dominant male in my tank, is almost completely pale, and half of his head is pitch black! he looks kind of like two face from batman. i learned that these are stress marks. in fact, i think that all of my fish had one or two small dots on the underside of their mouths, but i also assumed this was part of their coloration. how do i make them go away? and now, my final problem:
They will freak out if you moved the tank around as they have lost their territories. This can sometimes be a ad thing as it allows another fish to take control of the tank. Keep the tank lights off for a day and allow the fish to calm down. It is stressful when you are in the tank chasing them around with a net.
FRY
3) putting newborns in with month old fry was a mistake. the bigger ones are taking all the food. i wanted to relieve the mother of her babies, and this was the only thing i had. now, i have found a small breeder box in my closet, but i have no way of separating the newborns from the big fry. also, the big ones are eating all the food, and i have a feeling the newborn fry are starving. i was actually wanting the parents to take care of this new batch, but the other fish kept bullying the mom and eating the fry that she "coughed" up. it was pretty brutal. now, what can i do?
You can get some liquid fry food, feed the older fish the crushed flakes and then squirt some fry food into the tank for the little guys. Either that or only way you can do it is, to separate them which is a pain with small fish.
sorry for the long post. there's just so many things going on in my head. please respond ASAP.

Thanks!
Hope this helps

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oh god. my female is in big trouble now. she is just lying sideways on the floor, occasionally moving her fins. she can swim for a short period of time, but it is definitely not the million miles an hour she is capable of (more like the speed of a gourami) and she was just sitting near the filter. i scooped her up and put her in a convalescent home with an air pump, but i don't think she's going to make it. what happened? is there any last resort i can take?
Leave the lights off if you have anything near her that could stress her even more. Females dont forget have not eaten in up to 28 days, so they need time alone, with no babies to fully recover. If they go back too soon, a male who is ready to breed will go straight for her and it can lead to unfortunately the situation you are in.

Female mbuna do not take care of their babies like other fish, once they are born it is survival of the fittest unfortunately.

The less you stress her, the more chances she will have of recovering, put as much oxygen into the water as you can, run the air pump at full if you have a valve on it. Hope she makes it.

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220g Still sitting empty (come on Lottery I need the numbers to come up!)
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post #97 of 110 Old 07-31-2012, 08:41 AM
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Good luck with her

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post #98 of 110 Old 07-31-2012, 12:10 PM Thread Starter
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she died this morning. i had her in a refugium with an airstone and holes for open circulation to the filter, along with some flake and pellets and the lights off, but i found her upside down and not moving in the morniing im such a bad fishkeeper.

however, there is no time for me to mourn as such beause now the dominant male with stress marks is showing the EXACT same symptoms. sitting at the bottom of the tank, breathing rapidly. is he doomed too? should i separate him? sorry for my incompetence

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post #99 of 110 Old 07-31-2012, 02:52 PM
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Sorry to hear you lost the female. Did you check the water parms? maybe its something in the water

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post #100 of 110 Old 07-31-2012, 08:35 PM
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Agree, check the water parameters and see if you come across anything.

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75g Saltwater Reef, Ocellaris Clownfish, Lyretail Antias (baby), Lemon damsel, Longtail Fairy Wrasse, purple dottyback, snails, crabs and a few LPS corals.

220g Still sitting empty (come on Lottery I need the numbers to come up!)
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