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post #1 of 29 Old 11-17-2006, 01:26 AM Thread Starter
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So i posted this topic on another forum and not one responded. So here it goes; i purchased a new tank and trying to figure out what to do.... i have a 75 with all my fish in it right now and a 55 cycling.. basic fish are 3 blk calvus, 4 ocetallus golds, 1 pulcher (tangs)..., 1 yellow lab, 2 lab hongi, 1 red zebra, 1 Sciaenochromis fryeri (malawi). just wondering what would you do have so many ideas (species calvus, 55 shellie tank......) just thought one or two thoughts might help me decide. thanks for all who reply
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post #2 of 29 Old 11-17-2006, 02:40 AM
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Hi and welcome aboard, jlynch76.

Your stocking list seems to be a mix of Tangs and Malawis. I would advise against it particularly that they are from different origin and have different requirements. Moreover, Malawians tends to be more boisterous than Tangs.

If you still don't have catfish, you can try the Synodontis species. Synodontis petricola, multipunctatus and eupterus are the few ones I would suggest.:) Multipunctatus' breeding method may work on Malawian mouthbrooders. I've never tried that but one article done by a fellow Filipino in a magazine tried it and claimed that the cuckoo catfish used Malawi mouthbrooders for breeding purposes. The Malawians were never aware of the fact that the fry could be catfish more than their own species. If it works for him, it may probably work for you. With the yellow labs, it probably will. But you have to deal with the compatibility issue first between the Tangs and Malawians.:)

By the way, I'll move this topic to the Cichlids section.:)

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post #3 of 29 Old 11-17-2006, 09:10 AM Thread Starter
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Thanks I know about the mix, I moved and had to recycle my other 55 so there mixed for now. the only ones not taking the mix are the golds the female is just to small for the malawis especially the red zebra. I will check that cat fish out though thanks again.
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post #4 of 29 Old 11-17-2006, 07:45 PM
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Never too bad to try. They're great especially in Rift Valley tanks. Plecs are also suitable but the only thing that ticks me off is it's too unnatural that plecs and Rift Valley cichlids would mixed. Not to mention, plecs like soft water better. Synos on the other hand, can readily handle higher pH the Tangs would even need.:)

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post #5 of 29 Old 11-17-2006, 11:51 PM
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Blue, just reading about the synodontus catfish. Are you saying they are compatible with malawi cichlids? Sure would be nice to have a bottom feeder in my cichlid tank. :)

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post #6 of 29 Old 11-18-2006, 02:47 AM
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im not blue

but yes syno's do go with malawi's, iv done it many times with load's of S.P mixe's


but i like the look of these cats with malawi's more












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post #7 of 29 Old 11-18-2006, 03:12 AM
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Watch your stocking levels!! These fish are going to get quite large, and especially with having them mixed, more aggressive as they mature. The more decoration you can get into that tank the better. A healthy African cichlid tank has more decoration than fish.
One idea for a catfish that is cool and won't get overly large is the upsidedown cat: http://www.aquahobby.com/gallery/e_S...griventris.php

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post #8 of 29 Old 11-18-2006, 09:59 AM
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Thank you for sharing the photos Bolty, lovely aquarium! One of the cats looks like a pictus catfish? Oh, and how do you stack your rocks like that? I'd love to decorate with rocks but don't have a clue how to go about doing it.l

I just worry about putting any kind of bottom feeder in with the cichlids because of the nature of the cichlids. Especially since I bought them all at the same time and now if I add anything new they are going to be territorial about it.

Re: the upside down catfish, Dawn - I have seen them, are they okay with cichids?

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Yes, the upside down catfish are the best cats to put with cichlids. Not only are they compatible with aggression levels (the cichlids tend to leave them alone) but they also require the same water params... come from the same habitat/environment.
Be careful with a pictus with African cichlids... pictus prefer softer water, cichlids prefer harder water. Pictus also have a different temperment, and stress much much easier than the upside down cats and other synadontis species. Pictus are prone to ick, synadontis are quite hardy. As the cichlids mature, if they harrass or pick on the pictus, it doesn't have much of a chance.
The upside down cats are also one of the smallest species in the synadontis list, so won't get too large when full grown.

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post #10 of 29 Old 11-18-2006, 04:05 PM
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but they also require the same water params... come from the same habitat/environment.
most true upside down cats are riverine in orgin and thus not acclimated to the harder rift lake waters, be careful adding them to rift tanks, if you want a cute/small syno get some petricolas
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