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i need expert advice on a butterfly cichlid setup
Old 06-03-2009, 09:06 AM   #11
 
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PCKid, you asked this same question in two if not three different sections on this forum, and several of us have given suggestions (pretty much the same advice from different ones). It would help us and you if you only asked a question in one place, then we all know what is being said. One of the advantages of this forum is sharing our knowledge and some of us can pick up things from others if we follow the entire thread. Plus it ensures you are getting consistent advice, since we can often assume this or that on our own but collectively we see all the angles, so to speak.

Anyway, to add the consistency, here's what I earlier posted in the Freshwater Aquariums section:

Lovely fish, rams, deserving of a nice home. They need to feel secure, so plants are best, with some open spaces between groups of plants; this is their natural habitat (the orinoco River basin and savannahs in Venezuela and Columbia, SA). If they spawn (and they probably will if the water is warm, soft and slightly acidic) they will lay eggs in depressions in the substrate or on rocks. Substrate may be sand or small gravel, your preference.

Main thing is the water chemistry; even though most are now raised commercially, many aquarists find they still do not fare well when the water is outside their natural preference. They are also sensitive to nitrates and deteriorating water conditions. Good filtration is important, but as they occur in very slow moving water and pools in nature they do not like water movement and the filter should be slow-flow so as not to create a current more than necessary to circulate the water.

Lighting is dependant upon the plants, but as this is a relative shy fish bright lighting should be avoided. Moderate to low-light plants (swords, crypts, annubias, java fern) would be ideal in their favoured water conditions, and 1-2 watts of full spectrum fluorescent light would suffice. Floating plants like the Indian Fern (Ceratopteris) would also help reduce the brightness.

Heat is critical, they are warmer water fish, around 80F. Suitable tankmates at this higher temp would be cardinal tetras, pencilfish, hatchetfish, and small corys. I mentioned their shyness, and suitable quiet tankmates will help them feel more secure and keep them out a bit more. The females care of the eggs and fry is fascinating to watch.
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Old 06-03-2009, 06:18 PM   #12
 
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yea i think i will go with the bolivian but the trick is going to be getting a male and female because the LFS only has one and it is almost full grown and i want the from almost infancy lol
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Old 06-05-2009, 12:49 PM   #13
 
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another question. What should i put in the tank with my rams if anything? i want to have more than two fish but not sure wat would add color but not be to active for the rams? any advice is appreciated
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Old 06-05-2009, 04:10 PM   #14
 
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what is the most beautiful angelfish in yalls opinion im thinking that will be the tankmates
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Old 06-08-2009, 09:00 AM   #15
 
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a 20 gallon is not large enough for any species of Angelfish.......They need a large vertical height tank, IMO nothing smaller than a 55 for any angelfish...........Plus, angelfish will eat any and all the fry from the rams you would like to keep
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Old 06-08-2009, 10:24 PM   #16
 
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i scrathced the bolivian rams and have peacock cichlids instead with a pleco and featherfin cat. they are beautiful and are so much fun to watch but thanks for the advice fishin pole
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