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I just got myfirst two discus!
Old 06-04-2011, 02:21 PM   #11
 
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Because they're sensitive, and not cheap to maintain. Many are wild-caught, and the captive bred discus are fed beef hearts and (because of that,) daily water changes. It's a lot of work.
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Old 06-04-2011, 02:28 PM   #12
 
They're soooo nice though. wish they weren't 60 bucks an adult here... 40 for a juvy
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Old 06-04-2011, 06:41 PM   #13
 
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I must say, I don't keep discus.

I just don't see why discus are kept at such high temperatures... They come from the same areas as angelfish, yet angelfish have lower reccomended temperatures. Is it because the Discus' water is more shallow?

I bet it's because discus are so expensive, people reccomend keeping them at high temps to prevent disease. Not to mimic their natural climate, more similiar to how pet stores add salt to their freshwater tanks.

I someone knows this to be wrong, let me know. I might keep discus one day. This is just what I've gathered from my own research. Discus do perfectly fine at 80 degrees or so, and that will free up tankmates. Just keep the water pristine.
First on angels and discus, yes, they do occur together is some parts of their respective habitats. But wild-caught angelfish do require warm temperatures, above 80-F, or they do not last. It is only the tank raised angels that manage in the upper 70's.

As for discus needing warmer temps, the reason is explained in our profile, under water parameters. It mentions the trouble that below-80F temp often causes. With discus this applies to wild and tank raised fish.

Many fish seem to be able to adapt to differing hardness (and related pH) after generations of tank raising, but to my knowledge none adapt to temperatures that differ significantly from their habitat.
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Old 06-04-2011, 10:14 PM   #14
 
My two Discus are just the start

I wanted to be sure I knew what it takes to keep these fish healthy before addding more to the 125 gallon tank. I will find a home for the neons and get cardinals. I appreciate all the advice. Now I need to learn how to add my photo's of my fish and tanks. Discus are expensive and delicate so I am moving slowly. The fish are eating well and appear healthy. I was told by others to get the cory and neions. So I really thank you all for your help. I would like to have 10 Discus in this tank. The ph is 7.5 but my tap water is very hard. I did start with 25 gallons of tap water, then the rest ro water. DO I NEED bottom feeders in the tank?
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Old 06-04-2011, 10:19 PM   #15
 
Adult Discus are several hundred here! I did find a store in San Antonio that sells 2inch Discus for $22.50. BUT you have to get there fast they sell out in a couple of days. So now I know his deliver date and go the next day.
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Old 06-04-2011, 10:26 PM   #16
 
Talk to your Discus breeder and get the water peraminators, and study before getting them. I have already made mistakes and have done some research, but listened to the sales person tell me not to get cardinals but neons. I did read one Discus book saying the Corys were ok, but heard differently here. You can never learn too much. Keep notes on what works. Good Luck!
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Old 06-05-2011, 11:18 AM   #17
 
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Corys are very peaceful substrate fish, so they go well with discus, but only the few species that can tolerate the higher temperature. Corydoras sterbai is one, and a very attractive cory it is. It is in our profiles [click the shaded name].

Substrate fish are not needed exactly, but they add some bottom interest and will find bits of food so that is helpful.

I have read that discus should be acquired after they have matured a bit, around 3-3.5 inches, for best success. I will leave it for the more experienced with discus to comment on this. And a group of 5 acquired together is better, it avoids any possibility of bullying which can occur if a couple of discus become settled in "their" tank and others are subsequently added. I know the cost is expensive, but for the sake of the discus this is better.

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Old 06-27-2011, 06:09 PM   #18
 
Exclamation 125 gallon tank Discus tank

I have a RO machine that puts out 6.0 ph water. I changed out 1/2 of my 125 gallon tank to try and reduce my ph. It was 7.5ph. It is 7.0 now but I also added some drift wood that I have soaked for several weeks. I did this extreme water change because 2 of my Discus turned dark and died! I am feeding the frozen bloodworms and other frozen discus food. How often do I need to do a 20 % water change? I still have the same three alive neons and cory. Looking for homes for the neons. I am also looking for Cardnials...they appear to be very popular and sold out when I get to the store. Any advice appreciated! My original discus are healthy and have had them since the beginning of June 2011 the ones that died I had only two weeks.
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Old 06-28-2011, 11:16 AM   #19
 
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I have a RO machine that puts out 6.0 ph water. I changed out 1/2 of my 125 gallon tank to try and reduce my ph. It was 7.5ph. It is 7.0 now but I also added some drift wood that I have soaked for several weeks. I did this extreme water change because 2 of my Discus turned dark and died! I am feeding the frozen bloodworms and other frozen discus food. How often do I need to do a 20 % water change? I still have the same three alive neons and cory. Looking for homes for the neons. I am also looking for Cardnials...they appear to be very popular and sold out when I get to the store. Any advice appreciated! My original discus are healthy and have had them since the beginning of June 2011 the ones that died I had only two weeks.
There are a few possibilities.

As it was the new fish that died (and darkening is a sign of real trouble in discus) it might have been the fish; did you get them from a reliable source, like a local breeder, or a store?

There is also the possibility of inadequate acclimation to your water. Previously in this thread mention was made of softening the hardness and lowering pH; if the discuss came from different water parameters, acclimation over a period of time was required.

Feeding is sometimes an issue, though as these were new fish not so likely from you but perhaps the source. Frozen bloodworms should not be fed to discus regularly, once a week maybe. Good quality prepared flake foods are preferable, according to Jack Wattley.

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Old 06-28-2011, 01:48 PM   #20
 
I think jack wattley is a genius when it comes to discus
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